Ongoing Chivas USA Current News (Coaching Changes, Legal Issues etc...) Thread

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  1. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My bad.
     
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  2. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    And Real is gone from Chivas USA.

    bring back Chelis!
     
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  3. SteveUSSF_ref8

    SteveUSSF_ref8 Member+

    United States
    Oct 25, 2010
    Sun City, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with you that we won't see any huge changes in 2014. If anything is going to happen it will be after the 2014 season. That is when the lease agreement for the StubHub! Center expires.
     
  4. T.M. Anthony

    T.M. Anthony Member+

    Jun 13, 2010
    Hudson Valley
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was about to say, there HAS to be at least one change, where is the team gonna play in 2015? they can't put that off very long, especially if they want to renovate a new venue (IF they way to do that).

    Alas, I think they'll just extend their stay at SHC and be in a near endless sea of doing nothing much to improve their status.
     
  5. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a dumb name. I'm not sure why people seem so attached to it, other than the fact that there was a pretty marginal NASL team with that name who drew sub-Chivas USA attendances while they were around.
     
  6. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Amen.

    I lived in LA for a long time. Even among old-timers there wasn't much memory of the Aztecs. And there was zero fondness. The fact that the name keeps getting brought up is testament to the absurdities of soccer discussion on the internet.
     
  7. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Somebody for whom reading is not fundamental is gonna misinterpret what I'm saying as a universal endorsement of MLS team names, either old or new, or a universal dismissal of NASL team names, which is definitely not the case. I would've rather had Dallas Tornado than either Dallas Burn or FC Dallas, both of which are names which are kind of crappy at best.

    And I guess that Los Angeles Aztecs would be better than CD Chivas USA, but only marginally so. And that would be OK if the Aztecs were a team that millions of Angelenos remembered fondly. But they weren't. They were a pretty marginal NASL team, attendance-wise. The most popular Los Angeles-based professional soccer team in history is... the Los Angeles Galaxy by a large margin. In other words, we're not talking San Jose or Seattle or Portland or Seattle or Vancouver here.

    So why do we keep seeing people clamoring for Los Angeles Aztecs, over and over and over again? If you're going to rebrand the Goats, pick a name that doesn't suck or that had a lot of history. Well, unfortunately the latter is impossible, since the LA team with a lot of history currently makes their home at the StubHub Center, so you're going to have go with not sucking. And "Los Angeles Aztecs" sucks a great sucking.

    (BTW, y'all also need to get your stories straight. If you're going to relocate Chivas down to the OC and give them an NASL name, it needs to be "California Surf.")
     
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  8. Flex Buffchest

    Jan 25, 2010
    Orange County, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, please.
     
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  9. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Because they think it would pander to Chivas USA's intended demographic without being as stupid as Chivas USA. But I'm quite positive that Latinos in and around LA don't want to be pandered to -- they want to be respected, just like anyone else.
     
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  10. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    George Best. Johan Cruyff.

    Thats all I knew about the Aztecs. And "Aztecs" sounds cool.

    But its never gonna happen. And its not PC.
     
  11. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's the thing: LA wasn't even the team that was most associated with those guys EVEN IN THE NASL. Best was better known for his time in San Jose, and Cruyff for his time in Washington. And oh yeah, that was 35 years ago.

    And can I just marvel that the name that people choose -- as Knave points out -- to pander to SoCal Hispanics is associated with players from Northern Ireland and the Netherlands?
     
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  12. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Hey I'm not saying its a great name. But its better than Chivas.

    I don't think people are suggesting it to pander to hispanics. They are suggesting it because the whole "name your club something historic" is in vogue right now. See: Timbers, Whitecaps, Sounders, etc.

    Same reason why some people want Silverbacks to be name of MLS ATL team even though it makes little sense.
     
  13. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would that make California the home of the "Smurf'n Surf"?
     
  14. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the locals could refer to them as the California Serfs.
     
  15. T.M. Anthony

    T.M. Anthony Member+

    Jun 13, 2010
    Hudson Valley
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/artic...after-jose-luis-guero-real-makes-guadalajara-

    We worked on the first stage of a project that will show results in three years,” Real told reporters in Guadalajara. “It’s been the most difficult stage. We, as much Paco Palencia as myself, left everything ready for the new season.”

    ohhhh, so there is a plan! a 3 year one, interesting...

    I'm on the fence as to wether or not this is bulls#it or a genuine hard rebuild. probably both.

    and am I in too deep or are the stupid relocation arguments getting TERRIBLY annoying?
     
  16. SteveUSSF_ref8

    SteveUSSF_ref8 Member+

    United States
    Oct 25, 2010
    Sun City, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    The relocation arguments are TERRIBLY annoying; especially the rebranding ideas.
     
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  17. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not going to argue that Real in RSL's name isn't bogus. It obviously is. But, we ain't changing it. Get over it. But, complaining about Sporting is just silly. Sporting is generic and shows up in many other teams besides the ones that have "Sporting" based on different languages (Deportivo, for instance).

    Teams with Real in their name (From Wikipedia):
    BoliviaReal Potosí
    ColombiaReal Cartagena, Real Santander
    HondurasReal España
    PeruReal Garcilaso
    SpainReal Madrid, Real Mallorca, Real Zaragoza, Real Sporting de Gijón, Reial CD Espanyol de Barcelona
    United StatesReal Salt Lake

    Teams with Sporting in their name (From Wikipedia):
    EgyptAlexandria Sporting Club
    Republic of IrelandSporting Fingal
    PortugalSporting Clube de Portugal (This is Sporting Lisbon), Sporting Braga
    USASporting Kansas City
    Panama Sporting San Miguelito
    Belgium Royal Sporting Club Anderlecht, Royal Charleroi Sporting Club
    Spain Real Sporting de Gijón
    Peru Sporting Cristal

    So, there are, if I counted correctly, 110 possible Sporting versus Real matchups in the world, About half of which are with teams from outside of Europe. Any questions?
     
  18. Flex Buffchest

    Jan 25, 2010
    Orange County, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And that's why I dislike it. It's generic and does nothing to separate those teams from the countless other Real and Sporting teams.
     
  19. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The original MLS teams got hit with some real '90s names (with some exceptions ), and I think there's been an effort to go in the opposite direction for some expansion teams and when teams rebranded.

    If KC had started with a more traditional American sports name like Wolves or Blues or whatever, I don't think they would've done as dramatic a re-brand.
     
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  20. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    LOL! I absolutely loved the Dallas Tornado colors and logo but I'll never forget the California Surf's all white shoes! :)
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  22. AmeriSnob

    AmeriSnob Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Queens
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remember, we're talking about the team that had a name which is childish slang for urination. Sporting is infinitely better.
     
  23. marford21

    marford21 Member

    May 1, 2007
    SD, OC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    So true.... plus the San Diego State Aztecs (SDSU) technically lay claim to that name. Let's face it, it's just not a classy name for an LA-based franchise.
     
  24. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Too late now. Those are actually two of the best Peruvian teams.
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    Flex Buffchest repped this.
  25. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The Ray Hudson of Mexico!
     

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