One goal. That's one goal is MORE than the total of Fagan and Garcia, who started against Arsenal and have regularly started over Altidore.
According to this, he has zero league goals and one assist this season. He did score against Southend in the League Cup: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/profile?id=75589&cc=5901 In addition to being midfielders, Fagan and Garcia have played significantly less games than Altidore so you're also wrong about about them having "regularly" started over Altidore.
Even beyond that, a lot of this logic (or illogic as it happens to be) would be like a Burton Albion fan wholeheartedly believing they were Champions' League material after their draw with United in the League or FA Cup several years ago.
I'd love to say that MLS teams could compete with even a lowly EPL team by Hull. But... no. There is not an MLS team that would avoid relegation in the Premier League.
WOW, I'm surprised this thread is still going. I disagree with your statement. MLS does have some good teams, Houston, LA, New England. I think they would stay alive.
There really are people that believe this? Most MLS teams would struggle to stay up in the Championship. Fagan is a striker and is often chosen in games where Brown wants to play 4-5-1 because he is a carthorse... good at chasing balls and holding them up. Altidore works best with a strike partner and Hull don't play with 2 up front enough and when they do they don't have enough quality in midfield to create anything. It's a quagmire there right now, it's a shit team and I hope they go down.
Uhh.... no, because Hull is a shit club and has shit players and play shit football. I'd much rather see Newcastle and Forest in the Prem. It would be a shame if a real club like West Ham went down and Hull stayed up again. Outside of a blazing start last season they were the worst team in the league for a good 5 months and they've barely improved this season. And none of what I'm saying is because of Altidore. Some people here have a ridiculous inferiority complex.
Bit difficult to have good players and play good football when you have next to no money to spend. Not every club has obscene budgets like Chelsea or Man City.
Burnley arent crawling with money and seem to fine in playing some good football even West Brom who were a poor side at least played some decent stuff
I don't think Burnley will be playing good football for much longer. And West Brom's relegation could be partially put down to their stubborn attempt to football 'the right way'.
There's a difference between being shit, and playing conservative but still quality football. Birmingham obviously have more money at their disposal than Hull but look where they are. The same goes for Stoke. They have made it a point to play a certain way and they've earned my respect. Hull just aren't a very good team at all no matter what style they play and I would prefer they go down. Is that a crime? For me, it's become where there are too many of those teams in the Prem. Bolton, Hull and Blackburn are dreadful to watch. Stoke and Brum aren't exactly Barcelona themselves but at least they are having success with their systems. Basically, my problem with Hull is the potential upside - there really isn't any. If they stay up again they'll still be up against relegation again next season.
agreed on both points however the argument I am responding to is that it takes money to play good football- which I think is rubbish
of course it helps but its not like Hull are paupers- they spent around 15 mil their first season up and 5 mil this season and that does not include several of the lads they signed on free transfers or undisclosed fees Hull are spending money, but I think the point is that they have the team to actually play football but largely are not doing so.
You can play good football with almost any level of player but the better the player the more effective the football and better players cost more money. That's where the likes of West Brom and the 97/98 Bolton fell down
That's the thing, Megson did his job last year but I think you guys have a good enough team to actually outplay people. Klasnic is very good and a great foil for Davies. Muamba and Taylor are good players too but in an un-Bolton-like way you've conceded way too many goals which doesn't exactly go well with playing crap football. I think Coyle will do a good job, home form is definitely something he'll be looking to improve.
looks like Jozy will be bumped a little furhter down the order with the signing of Zaki good pick up imo
pretty insignifigant stat and your statement shows your lack of geographic understanding and deductive reasoning. ever stop to to consider the fact that the area of the united states is SEVENTY (70!) times that of pathetic little england for example? (9.1mil vs 130k sq km). you euros drive for 20 minutes in any direction and youre in a different country. in fact many states are vastly larger than most european countries. and most americans dont need to travel outside the us because as far as vacationing (err excuse me holiday) goes, everything you could dream of is within or borders - from the tropics of hawaii, to skiing in colorado, the coasts of california, the hunting and fishing in alaska, the beaches of florida, to history laden new england. its all here, so why leave? theres a reason why so many foreigners flock to the states, and its not because of our health care...
You really are doing the reputation of American posters, and Americans in general, a huge disservice with remarks like that.