OKC: Interesting Stadium Rumor

None, technically.

Montreal, Vancouver and Portland played in USSFD2, and Montreal actually DID play in the NASL. But they basically had one foot out the door at the time.

Portland and Vancouver had already been announced as MLS teams before they played a game post-split. Montreal just needed a place to play for a bit.

But the second division's best markets and organizations have been scooped up by MLS. Like they can do if they want.

No, because it is the perpetuation of another canard that people who have been here for an hour and a half feel comfortable with for some reason.

First: stop calling it "the MLS."

Second, no, MLS does not just take anyone, unless Jeff Cooper and Andrew Murstein were at the last Board of Governors meeting and I missed it.

Third, $100m is New York. The other franchises have not cost that much.

 

You seriously think that Don Garber should chair an America's Got Talent type tifo judging contest to choose their next expansion team?

 

We can agree to that - I'll shut my piehole when the USL comes to terms with that.

I stand corrected.

 

Different circumstances.

 

Those actions are from the last 12 months. They're pretty relevant.

The Miami situation was an uncapitalized owner that would be laughed out of today's MLS expansion plans, playing in a stadium they didn't own or control revenue in and played 35 miles from the center of their fanbase.

MLS 1.0 to a T

The Beckham Driven MLS Proposal as of yet, has not been awarded a team.

 

Dumbass.

Seriously, you just freaking got here. You discovered the lower levels like a month and a half ago.

Now you're just being a petulant dipshit.

It is absolutely - and demonstrably - not true that they will take anyone who writes a check. How many examples would you like?

You can use ALL CAPS all you want, but you're still a noob, you sill don't know what the ******** you're talking about, you don't know the history of the league, you don't know how it all works, and you're being an idiot.

 

I knew the answer ... just wanted to see your justification of USL first division teams not being USL Pro (which I can understand and agree with ... but I also see why the USL Pro would want to count those as their own since they were a part of that USL first division too).

Yes, Orlando's move wasn't due to USL Pro ... but NO expansion teams have moved to MLS due to the league that they were in before moving to MLS ... so what's your point?

 

I agree with that ... but since USL Pro teams and I'm guessing some league officials were a part of the USL first division as well as the USSF D2 that is why they're making the claims ... and really, who the freak cares? The only people care know the truth ... oh well. They're idiots for "claiming" more than Orlando. Who cares, they are among millions of other idiots around this country (myself included).

 

Is that like listing your ex-girlfriend as a character reference?

And, to be fair, it's not even teams. It's been markets.

Atlanta's a market. They're not taking the Silverbacks. It just so happens that in Seattle and Portland and Montreal and Orlando there was a market and an existing club with vision and money and infrastructure and it made sense to "promote" that club.

They didn't promote the Utah Blitzz, and they wouldn't have promoted the Colorado Foxes if there were no team in Denver at launch.

 

I completely agree with taking markets and not teams. And I like the ex girlfriend/character reference comment! Well played.

Everyone agrees that no matter what, MLS requires any existing franchise go find a sugar daddy ... and that's not bad IMO ... for those organizations to compete in MLS and bring enough resourses to the table at MLS board meetings they need one. There's no problem with that. I agree that the USL needs to figure this out and promote their league for what it is, but the constant bitching about every time that USL says the same crap regarding their league gets as old as hearing the USL message itself.

 

I guess honesty isn't important anymore.

 

It depends on who you ask I would guess. I'll take some mis information that I can easily find the truth about over the continual bitching about petty issues in statements that don't matter in the grand scheme of thing anyday.

 

When you're asking for public money, misinformation will quickly torpedo any plan and poison the well for anyone following you.

 

I missed where they asked for public money.

 

Everyone does. Either directly or indirect/offsite improvements

 

The Energy will play in Taft next year, but are all the changes that the NASL guys promised going to take place? Great sell out last week and your team looked great here in Orlando this past Sunday. Their style is the same as ours (SKC inspired?) but wherever they play they need width, more than U.S. football size.

 

That's actually pretty funny - given my political lean. Unless the Energy investors are mildly retarded, any SSS they build build will have some public funding and they will work out an agreement for the stadium to be owned by OKC or whatever it's sports facility ownership authority is called and lease/operate the facility on behalf of the city? Why you ask?

Property Taxes. RedBull GMbH opted not to do that in Harrison and now they have been successfully sued by the County for several million dollars in back property taxes. Taxes the city as a public authority would not be responsible for. That really punches a whole in your whole P/L sheet when you're on the hook for a 30-150 million dollar building when you're best bet is to only have it occupied and generating revenue 50 days out of the year.

That's up to the Energy investors now.

I guess they better start looking...

 

Tim McLaughlin is going to do the same thing that he promise when NASL was planing on playing at Taft Stadium.

 

I hope so. It's a sad thing when people don't live up to their committments