Ok, Jordan Morris, is he the deal?

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by deuteronomy, Apr 16, 2015.

  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably. It's getting closer all the time. The TAM money has taken MLS up several notches.

    (According to sportrac.com LA Galaxy and Toronto are outspending Sheffield United and Norwich City).
     
  2. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's true about the Premier League because there's so much financial investment to stay in the league as soon as they get promoted, and a significant amount beforehand, to get their chunk of the massive tv deals for as many years as possible before they get relegated again.

    But the other 3 leagues all have 2 or more teams with Transfermarkt values below Atlanta's. So in all likelihood they would not dominate. Some wouldn't even win league. Paderborn doesn't have any starlets that I'm away of, Khiry Shelton is in their 18's.
     
  3. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    That's because nobody but Toronto would pay what they pay to Mike and Jozy.
    What Galaxy and Chicago are wasting money on is a mystery.
     
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  4. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    There's little to support the claim, but everyone's entitled to an opinion.
     
  5. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    And probably to Ante Razov in particular; a prolific left-footed goalscorer who the Sounders had working specifically with Morris for a while:

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016...nes-scoring-touch-under-mls-legend-ante-razov
     
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  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Credit the Sounders coaching staff and Morris himself.
     
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  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    With the form he's in now, could he be playing for Bremen :cautious:
     
  8. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    the real deal alright...lol
     
  9. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's your scapegoat for this game? The guy made the run in behind and put one on a silver platter for Pulisic. He made a few dangerous crosses the likes of Pulisic and Sargent didn't deal with well, in so far as we got runners into the box. He was decent in his scoring attempts and in possession.

    Frankly, outside of Long, he was the best outfield player for the U.S., and the top attacker.

    This is almost as bad as looking at him as the scapegoat in WC qualifying when he played a significant amount in one game and kept hopes alive at Honduras.
     
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  10. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    If I could choose between Sargent and Morris for playing time right now, Morris would win.
     
  11. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would either be pulled? They are both in great form right now.
     
  12. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    will Morris get some foreign interest in the off season?
     
  13. kickin365

    kickin365 Member+

    Mar 4, 2002
    If he wants it I would think he could.
     
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  14. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    May 12, 2019
    The challenge -- and this isn't just true for Morris, it's also true for players like Josef Martinez -- is that MLS salaries for these guys probably place them in a weird spot where the teams who could and would pay them those salaries are pretty uncertain of their value and the teams that might view them as a clearly capable of playing at that level might balk at the salary.

    I could be wrong on that -- I'm really not sure of the payrolls of say, a lower level Bundesliga team -- but I could see it being a barrier.
     
  15. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    I wasn't saying you would necessarily, but if that was the choice, Morris would be my choice.

    No, I think that's right, Morris's MLS salary probably overshoots the European teams that would otherwise be in for him. The teams that would pay his salary are either looking for sure thing contribution or else phenomenal upside.
     
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  16. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I think it would be cool for Morris to go on loan to Bremen when Seattle crash out of MLS Cup.
     
  17. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I watched their game this weekend and several times they mentioned Sargent's pace. Now while he's not slow and teams are bothered by his speed what would they do with Morris?
     
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  18. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zlatan and a dude who played in the world cup for Argentina...
     
  19. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    I think this speaks to a problem I've always had with that bit of terminology. US sports divides 'pace' into (first step) 'quickness' and (top) 'speed.' I think that's more useful, as Sargent has enough of the second to get the job done, but his specialty is the first. Pulisic, Morris, Weah, Dest, Yedlin, etc all faster on a sprint.
     
  20. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Has EJ said anything about Morris' incredible return to form?
     
  21. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Duane Holmes has been healthy for the last two windows.
     
  22. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    yep... that is all I ask and it is too much for Berhalter. Euro based players arent getting a shot unless they are clear starters.
     
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  23. manfromgallifrey91

    Swansea City
    United States
    Jul 24, 2015
    Wyoming, USA
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the main issue I have with Gregg, I can tolerate The System, but a refusal to try guys over guys who are clearly not up to it is a shame. Morris deserves credit for working hard and developing something other than straight speed. He has gotten better at a lot of aspects and is now serviceable.
     
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  24. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    "He gonna have better career than my sorry ass".
     
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  25. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    This is a usmnt forum. Why would we care how much money a player makes. If it has any impact on his play it likely to be negative.

    That Bremen contract helped dramatically improve Seattle's offer.

    Mendez is already well ahead of where he would be if he signed with the LAG. What is more important is that he has better coaches and more competitive environment.
     

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