So what do you all think will happen with Yura? He has a pretty big contract which might make him pretty hard to move. If RSL cannot move Yura what role will he see next season? {Mod note - I pulled this out of the news thread to give it some prominence.}
Seriously if he stays how does he get integrated into this teams offence. Hard to imaging a 1.9 million dollar player passing out water bottles.
I mean, that's essentially what he did from August on, no? All joking aside, he has to be moved. There can't be a possibility of him wearing an RSL shirt next year. If he is, then Waibel should be ********ing canned. It's one thing to miss on the player initially and then have a hard time moving him within the year. To not recognize that, at all costs, he needs to be moved out would be catastrophic. Bold claim: If Yura is in an RSL shirt next season we won't make the playoffs.
I think it'd be incredibly hard to unless he had some kind of massive turnaround. Having a 2 mil player sitting on the bench keeps us from upgrading the position, and I'd have to imagine he'd become some kind of locker room cancer if he was sitting out all next season. I still think he needs to move at all costs.
If RSL does not move Yura, Petke is going to have to integrate him into his team. If he can I still think Yura can become a asset.
After this season, the goose is cooked. As soon as Yura needed to be sat for a couple of games, then the attitude would be back. He also had more than half the season to get on board this year; why should he be given more?
Not saying he should, but unloading his contract is going to be costly. If RSL gets no takers, can Petke make Yura a viable part of next seasons campaign?
While unloading his contract will be costly, at this point having a roster spot filled by him is more costly. I can't imagine him doing anything productive for this team. You can't have a roster spot filled with someone who has no chance at doing anything positive. Priority number 1 this off season is getting him off the team, but any means necessary.
Look, I get where you are going with this but it just has all the signs of being something that simply won't work. Bridges weren't burned, per se, but they might as well have been. If we do keep his contract next year, I fully expect a Mix Diskerud scenario where he isn't even with the team all that much.
There isn't currently any evidence that Petke can get Movsysian to buy in to his team. And there's a pile of evidence that he can't. I'd guess not, if it comes to that.
15 elaborate on the "bridges weren't burned per say, but they might as well have been comment. I know Yura sat for the most part of the-second half of the season, but I am not aware of locker room issues. This does not mean their were not issues, I just did not follow the issue that closely.
The amount of ********s Yura gave was equal to the amount of starts I have for RSL. None. It was also telling when Yura was involved, briefly, how little the rest of his teammates seemed to care that he was out there. I think everyone kind of understood the situation was not something that could be fixed within the year. To carry it into next year, though, would be a mistake. It would be ripe for creating a locker room division.
I don't understand how anybody can suggest that he be a viable part of the team next year. At some point you just have to let go of what ifs and accept reality.
He had half a season to look like he even cared, and he never once did. It was pretty telling when they'd give him minutes, and he'd plod around the field slower than players that had been out there for 70+ minutes. I'd buy into being able to integrate him next year if he had made some kind of progress in those months. He didn't. He looked completely checked out. Is it possible things could be different next year? Sure. But would you really want to take that kind of risk? This isn't some 100k per year player that you're gambling on. This is a guy that should've been front and center leading by example. I'd much rather cut him loose and move on to another player.
Looks like Yura not necessarily going anywhere if you read RSL Soapbox. This has to be making 15's head explode.
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To be honest, if I were CW, I'd say the same thing. Everyone knows that we need to move Yura, which destroys any bargaining position we could possibly have. If CW can put any doubt at all about our need to move Yura in the minds of potential buyers, it only helps us. Of course, if I'm a buyer I simply wouldn't believe him, but you get the idea. Of course, if we don't actually move Yura, that's a problem.
Most of what he said was spot on. It was GM speak. He was doing his job. HOWEVER The comment about "doing the right thing for the team" pushed me over the edge. How stupid does Waibel think we are? Also, maybe I'm wrong here, but if I'm describing Yura's game it's pretty similar to a false 9. Don't excuse him being out of the lineup because of tactics. Just say certain players started to gel. This is 100% true and doesn't reek of last second excuses.
I guess if he's choosing to stay, does that mean their hands were tied in moving him during the summer? I couldn't remember if he had a no trade clause or not. Still seems weird to stick around when you're not getting playing time.
Something smells of bulls-h-.... Before the middle of summer, any player would have gladly bailed on this team. Almost sounds like Yura was content with getting his payday, and would like to ride it out in infamy.
Unfortunately, I'm not aware of a mechanism for "unloading" a guaranteed contract for a player without trading him. And trades are always a 2-way street. You can "buy-out" his contract but that means you take the cap hit for that. I think moving him may not be as easy as some would like. I wouldn't characterize Yura as a false 9 at all. A false 9 typically drops deep, often collects the ball and distributes to midfielders who create the real damage (ala Silva's role this season). That's just not Yura's game. He's not a target forward, but he's a run and chase striker.