Official Players En El Exterior Thread [R]

Discussion in 'Bolivia' started by gringolimon, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. gringolimon

    gringolimon Member

    Club Bolívar
    Bolivia
    Sep 12, 2007
    White Plains, NY
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Updates in red:

    • CONFEDERATION
    Name Club (country)
    • Domestic Competitions
    • International Competitions

    • UEFA
    Ricardo Pedriel Mersin İdmanyurdu (Turkey)
    • 2015-16 Süper Lig Status (4 Gol): Club currently in 17th place with 17pts, 34pts behind 1st. 12 games remaining.
      • Club currently in a 3-way tie for Relegation [Bottom 3 clubs are relegated]
    • 2015-16 Turkish Cup: Eliminated.
    Martin Smedberg IFK Göteborg (Sweden)
    • 2016 Allsvenskan League Status: April 2nd
      • Winner qualifies to the 2017-18 Champions League (2nd Qualifying Round)
      • 2nd and 3rd qualify to the 2017-18 Europa League (1st Qualifying Round)
    • 2015–16 Svenska Cupen: Eliminated.
    • 2016-17 Europa League – 1st Qualifying Round: Draw Date June 20th
      • Will qualify for the 2nd Qualifying Round if IFK Norrköping win the 2015–16 Svenska Cupen (Currently in Quarterfinals – 3/13)
    Luis Gutierrez Ironi Kiryat Shmona (Israel)
    • 2015–16 Israeli Premier League - Regular season (0 Gol): Club currently in 10th place with 28pts, 32pts behind 1st however 4pts behind 6th place. 2 games remaining.
      • Top 6 qualify to play in the Championship Round (the rest play in the Regulation Round)
      • Winner qualifies to the 2016-17 Champions League (2nd Qualifying Round) and plays in the 2016 Israel Super Cup
      • 2nd and 3rd qualify to the 2016-17 Europa League (1st Qualifying Round)
    • 2015–16 Israel State Cup: Eliminated.
    • 2015-16 Europa League: Eliminated.

    • CONMEBOL
    Diego Cabrera Club Deportivo Capiatá (Paraguay)
    • 2016 Copa TIGO Apertura League Status (0 Gol): Club currently in 2nd place with 11pts, 2pts behind 1st. 16 games remaining.
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2017 Copa Libertadores (Second Stage)
    Damian Lizio Botafogo (Brazil)
    • 2016 Campeonato Brasileiro Série A League Status: May 15th
      • Top 4 qualify to play in the 2017 Copa Libertadores (Top 3 in Second Stage, 4th in First Stage)
    • 2016 Campeonato CariocaGroup B (1 Gol):Club currently in 1st place with 15 pts. 3 games remaining.
      • Top 4 in Group A & B qualify to play in the Championship Round
      • Top 4 qualify to play in the 2017 Copa de Brasil
    • 2016 Copa do Brasil – 1st Round
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2017 Copa Libertadores (Second Stage)
      • Top 6 eliminated before the Knockout Stages with the best 2015 Série A or 2015 Série B record qualify to play in the 2016 Copa Sudamericana.
        • 4/5 – Botafogo vs. Coruripe
        • 4/28 – Botafogo @ Coruripe

    • CONCACAF

    Yasmani Duk New York Cosmos (USA)

    • Current NASL Status - Spring season: April 3rd
      • Top 4 in the combined standings (Spring & Fall) qualify to play in the 2016 NASL Playoffs
    • 2016 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup – 3rd Round: Draw Date May 19th
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2016–17 CONCACAF Champions League

    • AFC
    Marcelo Moreno Changchun Yatai FC (China)
    • Current Chinese Super League Status: TBD March
      • Top 3 qualify to play in the 2017 AFC Champions League (Group Stage/3rd Rd/2nd Rd)
      • Winner plays in the 2017 Chinese FA Super Cup
    • 2016 Yanjing Beer Chinese FA Cup – 3rd Round: TBD May
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2017 AFC Champions League (Group Stage)
      • Winner plays in the 2017 Chinese FA Super Cup
    Jhasmani Campos Kazma SC (Kuwait)
    • 2015-16 VIVA Premier League Status (0 Gol): Club currently in 5th place with 25pts, 19pts behind 1st. 8 games remaining.
      • Winner qualifies to the 2017 AFC Champions League (Preliminary) and plays in the Kuwait Super Cup
      • 2nd and 3rd qualify to the 2017 GCC Champions League
      • 4th qualifies to the 2017 AFC Cup Group Stage
    • 2015–16 Kuwait Emir Cup: Quaterfinals TBD
      • Winner plays in the Kuwait Super Cup
    • 2015–16 Kuwait Crown Prince Cup: Eliminated.
    • 2015-16 2015–16 Kuwait Federation Cup: Champions.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    • Rumors of possible transfers/signings
    Diego Rivero ???
    Reyes Antelo ???
    Jorge Toco ???
    Juan Pablo Zabala ???
    Roland Vargas ???
    Fernando Davis Ojopi ???
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    • Youth Squad Signings
    Josue Guthrie 2016 Lindenwood University ???
    Diego Suarez FC Dynamo-2 Kyiv (Ukraine)
    Fernando Pontons ???
    Carlos Mendoza ???
     
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  2. gringolimon

    gringolimon Member

    Club Bolívar
    Bolivia
    Sep 12, 2007
    White Plains, NY
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Updates in red:
    • CONFEDERATION
    Name Club (country)
    • Domestic Competitions
    • International Competitions

    • UEFA
    Ricardo Pedriel Mersin İdmanyurdu (Turkey)
    • 2015-16 Süper Lig Status (4 Gol): Club currently in 17th place with 17pts, 36pts behind 1st. 11 games remaining.
      • Club currently penultimate place [Bottom 3 clubs are relegated]
    • 2015-16 Turkish Cup: Eliminated.
    Martin Smedberg IFK Göteborg (Sweden)
    • 2016 Allsvenskan League Status: April 2nd
      • Winner qualifies to the 2017-18 Champions League (2nd Qualifying Round)
      • 2nd and 3rd qualify to the 2017-18 Europa League (1st Qualifying Round)
    • 2015–16 Svenska Cupen: Eliminated.
    • 2016-17 Europa League – 1st Qualifying Round: Draw Date June 20th
      • Will qualify for the 2nd Qualifying Round if IFK Norrköping win the 2015–16 Svenska Cupen (Currently in Quarterfinals – 3/13)
    Luis Gutierrez Ironi Kiryat Shmona (Israel)
    • 2015–16 Israeli Premier League - Regular season (0 Gol): Club currently in 10th place with 28pts, 35pts behind 1st. 1 games remaining.
      • Will play in the Regulation Round
        • Bottom 2 are regulated to the Liga Leumit.
    • 2015–16 Israel State Cup: Eliminated.
    • 2015-16 Europa League: Eliminated.

    • CONMEBOL
    Diego Cabrera Club Deportivo Capiatá (Paraguay)
    • 2016 Copa TIGO Apertura League Status (0 Gol): Club currently in 3rd place with 11pts, 3pts behind 1st. 16 games remaining.
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2017 Copa Libertadores (Second Stage)
    Damian Lizio Botafogo (Brazil)
    • 2016 Campeonato Brasileiro Série A League Status: May 15th
      • Top 4 qualify to play in the 2017 Copa Libertadores (Top 3 in Second Stage, 4th in First Stage)
    • 2016 Campeonato CariocaGroup B (1 Gol):Club currently in 1st place with 19 pts. 1 game remaining.
      • Top 4 in Group A & B qualify to play in the Championship Round
        • Top 4 qualify to play in the 2017 Copa de Brasil
    • 2016 Copa do Brasil – 1st Round
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2017 Copa Libertadores (Second Stage)
      • Top 6 eliminated before the Knockout Stages with the best 2015 Série A or 2015 Série B record qualify to play in the 2016 Copa Sudamericana.
        • 4/5 – Botafogo vs. Coruripe
        • 4/28 – Botafogo @ Coruripe

    • CONCACAF
    Yasmani Duk New York Cosmos (USA)
    • Current NASL Status - Spring season:April 3rd
      • Top 4 in the combined standings (Spring & Fall) qualify to play in the 2016 NASL Playoffs
    • 2016 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup – 3rd Round: Draw Date May 19th
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2016–17 CONCACAF Champions League

    • AFC
    Marcelo Moreno Changchun Yatai FC (China)
    • Current Chinese Super League Status: TBD March
      • Top 3 qualify to play in the 2017 AFC Champions League (Group Stage/3rd Rd/2nd Rd)
      • Winner plays in the 2017 Chinese FA Super Cup
    • 2016 Yanjing Beer Chinese FA Cup – 3rd Round: TBD May
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2017 AFC Champions League (Group Stage)
      • Winner plays in the 2017 Chinese FA Super Cup
    Jhasmani Campos Kazma SC (Kuwait)
    • 2015-16 VIVA Premier League Status (0 Gol): Club currently in 5th place with 25pts, 19pts behind 1st. 8 games remaining.
    • 2015–16 Kuwait Emir Cup: Quaterfinals TBD
      • Winner plays in the Kuwait Super Cup
    • 2015–16 Kuwait Crown Prince Cup: Eliminated.
    • 2015-16 Kuwait Federation Cup:Champions.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    • Rumors of possible transfers/signings
    Diego Rivero ???
    Reyes Antelo ???
    Jorge Toco ???
    Juan Pablo Zabala ???
    Roland Vargas ???
    Fernando Davis Ojopi ???
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    • Youth Squad Signings
    Josue Guthrie 2016 Lindenwood University ???
    Diego Suarez FC Dynamo-2 Kyiv (Ukraine)
    Fernando Pontons ???
    Carlos Mendoza ???
     
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  3. nanoGVSP

    nanoGVSP Member+

    Jan 31, 2012
    New york
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    #2153 nanoGVSP, Mar 2, 2016
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2016
    Good work, you pretty much go 'em all.
    Hope to see Gammara from AC Milan in a senior squad soon, even if it's not with AC Milan. There is also the kid in France Llile I think? Not sure what's up with him.
     
  4. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Of possible transfers, Ramallo of Strongest should be on there. I think I said it here or maybe another thread--but a guy I know in South America who's an agent said he was at one point talking with some clubs in Turkey for a move in January. That didn't happen obviously, but i have to think with him looking so good in this Libertadores, he has to be gone for sure in June.
     
  5. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    El joven boliviano Miranda será titular y estrenará en la U ahora versus Colo Colo, en el clásico chileno.
     
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  6. dsauna

    dsauna Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    That's great! I saw part of the game (I started watching 5 mins before he was subbed out) what is the consensus on him In Chile? I would love to see him getting more minutes.
     
  7. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    He did good considering the context, his age and debut against the biggest rival and team leading the table. However, both teams did not play well.
     
  8. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
  9. gringolimon

    gringolimon Member

    Club Bolívar
    Bolivia
    Sep 12, 2007
    White Plains, NY
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia

    Updates in red:

    • CONFEDERATION
    Name Club (country)
    • Domestic Competitions
    • International Competitions

    • UEFA
    Ricardo Pedriel Mersin İdmanyurdu (Turkey)
    • 2015-16 Süper Lig Status (4 Goals): Club currently in 17th place with 21pts, 42pts behind 1st. 8 games remaining.
      • Club currently in penultimate place [Bottom 3 clubs are relegated]
    • 2015-16 Turkish Cup: Eliminated.
    Martin Smedberg IFK Göteborg (Sweden)
    • 2016 Allsvenskan League Status: April 2nd
      • Winner qualifies to the 2017-18 Champions League (2nd Qualifying Round)
      • 2nd and 3rd qualify to the 2017-18 Europa League (1st Qualifying Round)
    • 2015–16 Svenska Cupen: Eliminated.
    • 2016-17 Europa League – 1st Qualifying Round: Draw Date June 20th
    Luis Gutierrez Ironi Kiryat Shmona (Israel)
    • 2015–16 Israeli Premier League - Regular season (0 Goals): Club finished in 11th place with 28pts.
      • Currently playing in the Relegation Round (0 Goals): Club currently in 12th place with 28pts. 6 games remaining.
        • Bottom 2 (13th and 14th place) are regulated to the Liga Leumit.
    • 2015–16 Israel State Cup: Eliminated.
    • 2015-16 Europa League: Eliminated.

    • CONMEBOL
    Diego Cabrera Club Deportivo Capiatá (Paraguay)
    • 2016 Copa TIGO Apertura League Status (0 Goals): Club currently in 6th place with 14pts, 5pts behind 1st. 11 games remaining.
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2017 Copa Libertadores (Second Stage)
    Damian Lizio Botafogo (Brazil)
    • 2016 Campeonato Brasileiro Série A League Status: May 15th
      • Top 4 qualify to play in the 2017 Copa Libertadores (Top 3 in Second Stage, 4th in First Stage)
    • 2016 Campeonato CariocaGroup B (1 Goals): Club finished in 1st place with 19 pts.
      • Currently playing in the Taça Guanabara - Championship Round (0 Goals): Club currently in 2nd place with 4 pts, 2pts behind 1st. 5 games remaining.
        • Top 4 qualify to play in the 2017 Copa de Brasil
        • Winner is declared Taça GB Champions
        • Top 4 advanced to playoffs
    • 2016 Copa do Brasil – 1st Round
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2017 Copa Libertadores (Second Stage)
      • Top 6 eliminated before the Knockout Stages with the best 2015 Série A or 2015 Série B record qualify to play in the 2016 Copa Sudamericana.
        • 4/5 – Botafogo vs. Coruripe
        • 4/28 – Botafogo @ Coruripe
    Bruno Miranda Universidad de Chile (Chile)
    • 2015-16 Campeonato Scotiabank League Status - Clausura (0 Gol): Club currently in 9th place with 11pts, 9pts behind 1st; 1pt behind 8th. 6 games remaining.
      • NOTE: No club can qualify to both International Cups in the same year unless they win the Copa Chile MTS.
      • Winner qualifies to the 2017 Copa Libertadores (Second Stage)
      • Next 4 (that did not already qualify as the winner of the Liguilla Pre-Sudamericana Apertura or will qualify in the Aggregate Table) qualify to the 2016 Liguilla Pre-Sudamericana Clausura.
        • Next 4 are currently #3,6,7, and 8.
        • Winner qualifies to the 2016 Copa Sudamericana (First Stage)
    • 2015-16 Campeonato Scotiabank League Status - Aggregate Table: Club currently in 9th place with 29pts, 25pts behind 1st; 15pts behind 4th. 6 games remaining.
      • Top 2 with most overall points (that did not win in either Liguillas Pre-Sudamericanas or participated in the 2016 Copa Libertadores) qualify to the 2016 Copa Sudamericana (First Stage).
        • Top 2 are currently #3 and 4.
      • NOTE: Usually, only 1 qualifies but since the runner-up of Copa Chile MTS already qualified to the Copa Libertadores as Apertura champions, they had to give up the runner-up's right to a Copa Sudamericana spot.
      • Out of the 2 champions (2015 Apertura and 2016 Clausura), the one with the most overall points (the "better" champion) qualifies to the 2016 Supercopa de Chile.
    • 2016 Supercopa de Chile: TBD
      • The "better" champion from the 2015 Apertura and 2016 Clausura will play against the 2015 Copa Chile MTS winner, which was Universidad de Chile.
    • 2016 Copa Chile MTS: TBD

    • CONCACAF
    Yasmani Duk New York Cosmos (USA)
    • Current NASL Status - Spring season: April 3rd
      • Top 4 in the combined standings (Spring & Fall) qualify to play in the 2016 NASL Playoffs
    • 2016 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup – 3rd Round: Draw Date May 19th
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2016–17 CONCACAF Champions League

    • AFC
    Marcelo Moreno Changchun Yatai FC (China)
    • 2016 Chinese Super League Status (1 Goal): Club currently in 16th place with 0pts, 6 pts behind 1st. 28 games remaining.
      • Top 3 qualify to play in the 2017 AFC Champions League (Group Stage/3rd Rd/2nd Rd)
      • Winner plays in the 2017 Chinese FA Super Cup
    • 2016 Yanjing Beer Chinese FA Cup – 3rd Round: TBD May
      • Winner qualifies to play in the 2017 AFC Champions League (Group Stage)
      • Winner plays in the 2017 Chinese FA Super Cup
    Jhasmani Campos Kazma SC (Kuwait)
    • 2015-16 VIVA Premier League Status (0 Goals): Club currently in 4th place with 31pts, 16pts behind 1st. 6 games remaining.
      • Winner qualifies to the 2017 AFC Champions League (Preliminary Round) and plays in the Kuwait Super Cup
      • 2nd and 3rd qualify to the 2017 GCC Champions League
      • 4th qualifies to the 2017 AFC Cup Group Stage
    • 2015–16 Kuwait Emir Cup: Eliminated
    • 2015–16 Kuwait Crown Prince Cup: Eliminated.
    • 2015-16 Kuwait Federation Cup: Champions.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    • Rumors of possible transfers/signings
    Diego Rivero ???
    Reyes Antelo ???
    Jorge Toco ???
    Juan Pablo Zabala ???
    Roland Vargas ???
    Fernando Davis Ojopi ???
    Rodrigo Ramallo???
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    • Youth Squad Signings
    Josue Guthrie 2016 Lindenwood University ???
    Diego Suarez FC Dynamo-2 Kyiv (Ukraine)
    Fernando Pontons ???
    Carlos Mendoza ???
     
  10. gringolimon

    gringolimon Member

    Club Bolívar
    Bolivia
    Sep 12, 2007
    White Plains, NY
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Thanks. I've added him to our list. Speaking of which, if you have time, could you please check the rules below and let me know if I missed anything and/or need to correct something. Again, if you have the time.

     
  11. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    I think you´re fine. Seems correct, although the current administration said they might change it starting next league.
     
  12. gringolimon

    gringolimon Member

    Club Bolívar
    Bolivia
    Sep 12, 2007
    White Plains, NY
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Administrations! They always do that kinda stuff. smh
     
  13. Eber1990

    Eber1990 Member

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Platini Sanchez managed to save Boavista from relegation with 2 games left. Hopefully we can see a Bolivian face on his team next season!
     
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  14. Dustyvinyl

    Dustyvinyl Member

    Jun 16, 2008
    Santa Ana,Ca
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I wonder if Lizio gets any play time at Botafogo;it was a big mistake by Bolivar by loaning him out, considering the inconsistency of Cardozo.

    Good for Erwin Sanchez, Even today he stands out the most.
     
  15. nanoGVSP

    nanoGVSP Member+

    Jan 31, 2012
    New york
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    He must not be getting much playing time, Baldi didn't call him even for the 40 man roster. Hope the kid Gamarra from AC Milan is ready to contribute in a big way.
     
  16. Eber1990

    Eber1990 Member

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    He's not getting much playing time, but Baldi didn't called him because they had an argument during the last qualifiers game. Baldi said publicly that it was a mistake to have him in the starting 11 against Colombia, the day after Lizio went back to Brazil alleging Family reasons.
     
  17. nanoGVSP

    nanoGVSP Member+

    Jan 31, 2012
    New york
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I don't know about Baldi, too many issues and not enough results. There's nothing to look forward to in this Copa Centenario.
     
  18. nanoGVSP

    nanoGVSP Member+

    Jan 31, 2012
    New york
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia

    Duk scored his first, on his first start.
     
  19. nanoGVSP

    nanoGVSP Member+

    Jan 31, 2012
    New york
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia

    Smedberg scored as well, good to see both guys going into Copa America on a high note.
    Martins also score, but he's not going...
     
  20. nanoGVSP

    nanoGVSP Member+

    Jan 31, 2012
    New york
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
  21. MarcoM3

    MarcoM3 BigSoccer Supporter

    May 14, 2007
    Reyes, Beni
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Gringo, I think this is your last update? Many of these players are back in Bolivia, and we are in the worst shape possible. EVER.
    Sorry for being gone so long, everyone!
     
  22. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Rumor has Azogue going with Hoyos to Chile.
     
  23. MarcoM3

    MarcoM3 BigSoccer Supporter

    May 14, 2007
    Reyes, Beni
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    #2173 MarcoM3, Dec 30, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2016
    Just read in one of the bolivian papers that 7 players in the U-20 come from teams abroad, and have never played professionally in Bolivia before. This is actually a good thing!

    "La Selección Nacional sub-20 tiene siete jugadores legionarios, ellos son la base del equipo que nos representará en Ecuador por el sudamericano. Bruno Miranda (Universidad de Chile), Henry Vaca (O´Higgins), Lucas Navas (Argentinos Juniors), Iker Durán (Torre Levante España), Diego Figueroa (Argentinos Juniors), Brandon Torrico (Elche España) y Sebastián Gamarra ( FeralpiSalף Italia)."
     
  24. gringolimon

    gringolimon Member

    Club Bolívar
    Bolivia
    Sep 12, 2007
    White Plains, NY
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Yep, that seems to be the case. Almost everyone is returning to a club in Bolivia to the point that I don't think it's worth having a list and updating it for that matter. It's sad, really. I'm surprised Duk went to Saudia Arabia but I' guessing they are paying him the big bucks! I was hopping he would go to an MLS team or Mexican team so we can see him on TV; same goes for Campos. Martins Moreno might play in Gremio or a Brazilian team so that would be some good news; he'd be playing in both the Brazilian league or either the Libertadores or Sudamericana. Unfortunately for Carlos Lampe, his team didn't qualify to any of the Copas this year. Baldivieso's new club, Carabobo is in the Libertadores and I believe his son is in the team as well as Castillo. Hopefully things will look brighter for our players in 2017, especially our youth but from what you mentioned in your other post, it seems we're going in the right direction.
     
  25. atsegnorts

    atsegnorts Member

    Apr 2, 2007
    Falls Church
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Infrastructure Infrastructure Infrastructure this is what happens when greed and corruption run your federation for 3 decades. We need us, people who have no vested interest in earning a pay check. The worst part is that the president was using the fbf as his side hustle. Our country needs us gentlemen.


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