Official J2 2014 Thread

Hate to say it but probably best for future Nagano, starting to play in the new ground at J3 level.

and woohoo old Kijima scored the winner for Sanuki.

 

s..t Yamagata on its way to J1.

 

Yamagata to J1 and JEF did it again!

 

Yamagata's up! Their miracle-season continues!

 

It has been a sneaking miracle season for them, even their fans didnt realise that it was a miracle season before it was too late, theyve had the worst average attendance for over a decade.

 

Probably. Unless they win the EC..

 

They will be 100% definately, they dont have the team to stay up, barely the team to promote. However its a chance to Yamagata even they go down again to win some of their attendances back they have been losing for some time. Its not good for any club to stay too long in same division, since fans get bored. Always better to promote or relegate for attendances.

 

2nd time in 3 years that the 6th placed team gets promotion. Clearly shows that J2-teams doesnt handle well being the favorite and/or playing for draw.

The rule that a draw will take the home-team through seems more like a disadvantage than anything else, as in 6 out of 8 games the away-team ended up the winner. And the last 2 games ended 0-0 and 1-1, so actually a home-team is yet to win a game in "normal" mode so far. And because the home-teams obviously play for the draw, the matches have in most cases been extremely boring as well except for in the last 10 minutes of the games, so perhaps this format should be scrapped altogether, or atleast revised?

 

No, it's still an advantage. Up to the teams to handle it better than they've done so far.

 

Of course it is on paper, and in every other league than J.League 2 it would most likely have ended with the home-team progressing in the majority of the matches. But J2 isnt like other leagues, and the numbers don't lie.

How else would u explain that the bookmakers made Montedio a relatively clear FAVORITE to win this game? They know it, and everyone else who work with the league know it as well. 3 years ago, in a similar match, between the 3nd and 6th placed team in a playoff where draw is enough for the one of the sides, they would have made the "home-side" an extremely big favorite.

 

Well the same in J1 being favourite is not handled well, Marinos last Year, Urawa this........

 

Honestly I'm not too much into betting. Montedio scored an offside goal and ended up defending it, they're good at that. The same logic exists in japanese baseball where the winner of the regular series gets huge advantages during the playoffs and almost everytime, it profits them. The system will be fixed by itself, if it needs any fixing since I'm quite pleased by the result.

 

Might give it a couple of more years, but dont really agree with it working well. Cause the matches have been in many cases almost unwatchable for the first 75 minutes, and nobody really wants that.

 

I do agree here should be more the english play-off model.

 

I don't think it's that bad given how close JEF, Jubilo and Montedio were to each other level wise. Might as well make it exciting.

 

Thing, it's really rare when there is a huge gap between third and fourth. In a league as competitive as the J2, the rule works quite well.
Might has been harsh on Sanga but they were obliterated at home by Oita so ... Not really the showing of a winner.

 

My guts.
They're rarely wrong (until Majster comes digging for a 5 years old post).

 

I myself agree

I understand how a team which was third maybe deserves it more...

However I perfectly understand the 3,4,5,6th has a chance to qualify system which keeps it more interesting and offers additional games and drama at the closure system. And thus I support it. In the end it does come down to attendances and $ which keeps the entire thing going and I am speaking this as someone who wanted to see JEF in J1