Wut? Look through the results of the last 5yrs or so, son. Hell, didn't Leon get eliminated by a tiny chilean club? A win against boca in their home is nice but it does little to change the fact that mexican teams have been declining in performances. So no i'm not covering my ass. If anything you might be jumping the gun by calling me out since its their first game.
Leon isn't a good example; they've been dreadful this season. Had it'd been last year's team, then I'd agree with you. A win against Boca on their turf isn't just "nice", it's a historic win...and they didn't just barely get by, they spanked them. Remember that Boca Jrs reached the Libertadores final just last year. Someone on the general footy board said that this was only Boca's 3rd loss at home in like 20 years (Copa Libertadores). So yeah, not sure why you're trying to downplay their victory. Saying that it's just a nice win is the understatement of the year.
Once again, this is the first game of group play lol @ "understatement of the year" This game will mean nothing if Toluca doesn't do something noteworthy or fails to pass to the next phase. I don't think this is a historic win either. Not sure how you see it but for me something historic would be something that hadn't happened before. A mexican team has beaten Boca at home before (CA). And even if this was the first time of getting a win in argentina or at boca, a simple group win means very little. This is like the mlsrs getting excited about a win in mexico. Win the damn cup or else keep your dick in your pants.
Isn't Boca still in Pre-season mode? Still a good win by Toluca (surprising win) Lets see if Toluca and Tijuana can make it pass the groups to at least balance the elimination of Leon in the Pre-group eliminations.
Clubes mexicanos contra brasileños: Libertadores 1998 Guadalajara 1 - 0 Gremio [G] América 1 - 2 Gremio [G] Guadalajara 1 - 0 Vasco da Gama [G] América 1 - 1 Vasco da Gama [G] Gremio 2 - 0 Guadalajara [G] Vasco da Gama 2 - 0 Guadalajara [G] Gremio 1 - 0 América [G] Vasco da Gama 1 - 1 América [G] Libertadores 2000 América 2 - 0 Corinthians [G] Corinthians 2 - 1 América [G] Atlas 0 - 2 Palmeiras [4°s] Palmeiras 3 - 2 Atlas [4°s] Libertadores 2001 São Caetano 1 - 1 Cruz Azul [G] Cruz Azul 1 - 0 São Caetano [G] Libertadores 2002 São Caetano 2 - 0 América [SF] América 1 - 1 São Caetano [SF] Libertadores 2003 Gremio 3 - 2 UNAM [G] UNAM 1 - 0 Gremio [G] Corinthians 1 - 0 Cruz Azul [G] Cruz Azul 3 - 0 Corinthians [G] Cruz Azul 2 - 2 Santos [4°s] Santos 1 - 0 Cruz Azul [4°s] Libertadores 2004 São Caetano 1 - 2 América [G] América 2 - 1 São Caetano [G] Cruzeiro 1 - 1 Santos Laguna [G] Santos Laguna 1 - 0 Cruzeiro [G] São Caetano 2 - 1 América [8°s] América 1 - 1 São Caetano [8°s] Libertadores 2005 São Paulo 4 - 0 Tigres [4°s] Tigres 2 - 1 São Paulo [4°s] At. Paranaense 3 - 0 Guadalajara [SF] Guadalajara 2 - 2 At. Paranaense [SF] Libertadores 2006 Guadalajara 2 - 1 São Paulo [G] São Paulo 1 - 2 Guadalajara [G] Tigres 2 - 0 Corinthians [G] Corinthians 1 - 0 Tigres [G] UNAM 1 - 2 Internacional [G] Internacional 3 - 2 UNAM [G] Guadalajara 0 - 1 São Paulo [SF] São Paulo 3 - 0 Guadalajara [SF] Libertadores 2007 Necaxa 2 - 1 São Paulo [G] São Paulo 3 - 0 Necaxa [G] América 0 - 0 Santos [4°s] Santos 2 - 1 América [4°s] Libertadores 2008 Santos 1 - 0 Guadalajara [G] Guadalajara 3 - 2 Santos [G] América 2 - 4 Flamengo[8°s] Flamengo 0 - 3 América[8°s] América 2 - 0 Santos[4°s] Santos 1 - 0 América[4°s] Libertadores 2010 São Paulo 2 - 0 Monterrey [G] Monterrey 0 - 0 São Paulo [G] Guadalajara 1 - 2 Internacional [F] Internacional 3 - 2 Guadalajara [F] Libertadores 2011 América 1 - 0 Fluminense [G] Fluminense 3 - 2 América [G] Internacional 4 - 0 Jaguares [G] Jaguares 1 - 0 Internacional [G] Santos 1 - 0 América[8°s] América 0 - 0 Santos[8°s] Libertadores 2012 Cruz Azul 0 - 0 Corinthians [G] Corinthians 1 - 0 Cruz Azul [G]
I kept thinking they were confusing Saucedo with Ochoa until I saw one of the Millionarios players is named Ochoa. That Torres guy could be a dead giveaway for Riascos twin.