Official 2017 J1 Thread

Discussion in 'Japanese Club Football' started by nipponbasse83, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    What a meltdown from Cerezo. Doing a classic J-League leaders' trick, aren't they.
     
  2. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
    Frontier
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The ball is in Kashima's favor, but as we know, the top spot is never a secure thing in J-League. Those other ACL spots on the table is my focus though.:sneaky:
     
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  3. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Marinos actually looks as good a candidate than any of the other teams up there at the moment I think.

    They don't play the most interesting football ( having only scored 30 goals in 22 matches), but they are very strong defensively and seems to be able to grind out wins even on bad days.

    What's even more surprising is to see Iwata all the way up in 6th place, ahead of the likes of Gamba, Urawa, Tokyo and Kobe.

    Went to Ajinomoto to see Tokyo VS Kobe yesterday. Not the best match, and the tempo was overall quite low. The worst thing about the game was probably the referees though. Numerous bad calls, especially on offsides and in play-on situations, and he really killed the flow of the game. He also seemed very protective of Podolski, with even the slighest touch by an opposing player being rewarded with a foul.

    Podolski had a few brilliant touches, but he didn't stand out in any way other than that. His body language and gestures were really bad, and although he might be used to play on a higher level this is not really how he should act imho. He certainly wasnt Kobe's best player in this game, and his movement off the ball as well were quite bad at times. But then again, every now and then his brilliance showed.

    For being a home-game, Tokyo was very defensive-minded and was barely over at Kobe's half for the first 30-40 minutes. They took more over in the 2nd half , but think Kobe was the better team overall. Utaka really stirred things up when he got on though.
     
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  4. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
    Frontier
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Petrovic at Vissel Kobe now? Talk about a plot twist! And a new President of the club too? Rakuten is making the moves.
     
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  5. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    They want Van Gaal and Javier as well.
     
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  6. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    5 points clear. It seems this team Kashima knows how to win trophies. Last season they had problems in the regular season, but played at their best level when it really mattered. F-Marinos wins game after game even they are not scoring too much.
     
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  7. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    It's not the most excting season so far... Aside from Urawa's crisis. Not too many things standing out this season.
     
  8. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Kobe in trouble. I hope a Forlan situation does not repeat itself with Podolski.
     
  9. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    He's not good for team-morale it seems. Always complaining about other players, and his body language is horrible. He need to step it up for sure.
     
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  10. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Really hope that he do not end up disliking the country or league like Forlan. Forlan did not like playing in Japan by the time he left, he felt the fans did not do enough to pressure the team into playing better and his team-mates did not give a shit about relegation. Podolski might end up the same if Kobe's form continues.
     
  11. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Not the most deserved win for the Antlers according to this video.



    Cerezo were on top.
     
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  12. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    I might be wrong about that but probably many players consider a few teams like hollidays for which you get paid. Those clubs where money is damn good and there's absolutely no pressure from the fans as those clubs never did anything meaningful on the national scene. In this number is surely Vissel, FC Tokyo and Cerezo. Go to Gamba, Antlers, Reds and besides good cash every month on you account there's a lot of pressure from the fans all around. You lose three games in a row - they will start booing you for your every mistake. Things like that. On the lower end of the table players are much more determined to keep their work in J1 so there are no such situations. But in those few clubs there's a bunch of talented guys way above the average who don't have to sweat to keep midtable J1 place and don't want to produce better results because the pressure would rise every season. So they keep on doing what they do until there's a catastrophe after few years of neglection when it turns out that they aren't as good as they thought and end up in J2. This happened to Cerezo and FC Tokyo in recent years. Then comes one or two seasons of sobering and the cycle repeats.

    Too bad that such players are thrown into those strange clubs and get the wrong impression. They try hard to fight this tepid atmosphere that they didn't probably felt ever playing in Europe (in better clubs).
     
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  13. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Podolski might have went to the wrong club then. Then again, few J league clubs are willing to pay him that much.
     
  14. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Forlan never disliked being or playing in Japan, criticism doesn't equate that.
     
  15. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    How are you guys watching J.League nowadays?
     
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  16. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Cerezo Osaka proved again that they are shockers!

    They lost 1-4 at home against Vegalta.

    While earlier today Consadole Sapporo wasted precious 3-points as they couldn't hold to a 2-0 lead against Albirex Niigata and ended up drawing 2-2. They are making things hard for themselves as they have the hardest schedule compared to other relegation-threatened teams.
     
  17. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Looks like Kashima will win again.
     
  18. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saito blew out his ACL and is out an estimated 8 months. Meanwhile Oshima pulled his hammy and will sit for 2 months. Ugh
     
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  19. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    With Yokohama, Cerezo and Kashiwa struggling to keep form recently, Jubilo Iwata might pull a surprise and book an ACL spot for the next season.
     
  20. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
     
  21. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I still hope Kashiwa will take 3rd spot.
    Most interesting team of the league if they don't lose anyone on next winter.

    What about Kobayashi? He's amazing.
     
  22. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    What about Kobayashi?

    He's great for Frontale but that's his limit I assume. Good luck to him in the rest of his playing time in J League. Every time he was chosen for NT he ended with an injury just before the training camp start (or during)...

    It's great that a talking head like Nanami can be actually a pretty good coach in his club (Jubilo). A rare occurance.
     
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  23. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
    Frontier
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This........match of the year nominee type of stuff.
     
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  24. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #224 Samurai Warrior, Oct 21, 2017
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2017
    Big 1-2 away win for Consadole Sapporo against clueless FC Tokyo (Bothroyd scoring a brace) as they are now 7 points clear of the relegation zone with 4 games left to to play.

    Sanfrecce losing 0-3 at home against Kawasaki Fromtale, Omiya snatched a point with an injury time equaliser to secure a draw against Kashiwa, Shimizu held Vegalta Sendai to a goalless draw and Ventfore lost against Cerezo Osaka 0-2.

    Relegation battle:
    Sapporo 34
    Shimizu 30
    Kofu 28
    Hiroshima 27
    Omiya 24
    Niigata 16


    I could say that Sapporo is safe especially with Kofu and Omiya will going to play against each other.
    While Albirex is 99.99% assured of relegation unless a miracle happened (their first ever relegation since joining the J-League, which left only Kashima, Yokohama Marinos and Sagan Tosu as the only teams that didn't relegate ever from J1).
     
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  25. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Well Sagan began from J2 though :p
    As in, it's only since they were promoted that they battle to stay in J1
     
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