Official 2015 Nadeshiko Japan Thread [R] - なでしこジャパン(英語スレッド)

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  1. unepomme

    unepomme Member+

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Sawa-sama is now on TV for the guest for CWC final.
     
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  2. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    GOTY 2015


    Full results later on
     
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  3. unepomme

    unepomme Member+

    Jan 21, 2010
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    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    You're really great!:cool:
     
  4. And G

    And G Member+

    Jan 31, 2010
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    Okayama Yunogo Belle
    I'm okay with that. No need for a 2nd round of voting in my opinion.

    Extended replays were great.
     
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  5. hirohiro

    hirohiro Member+

    Dec 29, 2011
    Brighton, UK
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Excellent video, Lechus!
     
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  6. INACc4ever

    INACc4ever Member

    Jan 25, 2015
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    #6631 INACc4ever, Dec 21, 2015
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2015
    You get no complaints from me. All 10 excellent selections and order!

    Those WWC goals in particular were so very important to advance to the next round and Ogimi's against USA was good for pride.

    Already looking forward to 2016 GOTY.
    Cheers!
     
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  7. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    #6632 blissett, Dec 21, 2015
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2015
    Well, the only reason for a second round could be if it could generate any interest from international posters outside this thread. But anyway, I don't think results could change much: probably Sakaguchi's goal vs Netherlands would win hands down anyway. After all, we all recognized greatness just after we watched that action at WWC and that goal was inserted by FIFA in the shortlist for Goal of the Tournament. I am curious to know details, but I suppose that goal won by a quite large margin (it was anyway 1st in my chart, no doubt).

    Not only I think that the winner wouldn't change, but I guess that a second round of votes wouldn't change anything else in a radical way: some goals could just switch around some positions, but basically the rankings are very sound and, though they differ a little from mine, I can totally sympathize with these choices. I was in doubt for some positions myself, and I don't mind seeing them changed around.

    By the way, I could bet that this year the very selection of the ten goals was quite similar among all of the voters, and, given the low total amount of goals (including PKs and own goals), it wasn't too much difficult to imagine that. 90% of the selected goals were the same that I chose (only difference: I preferred Kawasumi's goal vs France at Algarve to Sugasawa's header vs Cameroun at WWC, since in my opinion Yuika was left too much free to jump and score undisturbed, although I had noticed the athleticism and accuracy of that header and that goal was put in my "honorable mentions").

    The other goals in my selection were the same, although the order was a little different (in particular, I liked better Ogimi's goal vs Italy than the one at WWC and they were switched in my order: they were both nice, though, and I can see the argument that the one in a WWC final, although lost, was more important that the winner in a friendly match).

    All in all a very good selection, a very good video and a very good performance from our friend Lechus7, who made Nadeshiko Thread's GOTY a success once again! :)

    We'll see in the next days if everyone's agree about the decision to avoid a 2nd round. In that case, I will be curious to see the full results. :geek:
     
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  8. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
  9. unepomme

    unepomme Member+

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Tomorrow's games again:

    Empress's Cup semifinal

    Vegalta vs Inac 11:00
    Beleza vs Albi 14:00
     
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  10. lyonfeminsoccer

    Jun 4, 2015
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Sexy replay:inlove:,Lechus!
    GOTY list made me a good memory for 2015.These goals brought me back to those days and nights for Nadeshiko's matches.
    It's a bit surprising for me that #17 &#18 were out of Top10.These two are really crutial.I remembered I was fairly nerverous and trembled with (VS England) from start till end.
     
  11. lyonfeminsoccer

    Jun 4, 2015
    Club:
    12 de Octubre

    Hope Inac & Beleza could meet in finals.Beleza is a "big opponent", suiting for Sawa's retirement ceremony.If these two teams could qualify as expected,finals should be exciting and magnificent

    It's not easy for Inac to conquer Vegalta&Beleza in a very short period.I once watched a NadeshikoLeague(Inac VS Beleza),Inac is a weaker side obviously.Kyokawa's absence means a lot to Inac.
     
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  12. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    I guess Lechus7 (and others) made it quite clear in previous years' GOTY installments that everyone is free to choose whatever standard they want to select goals for Goal of the Year: you can choose the most important ones, that were key for the whole season; or those who have a more emotional charge involved; or those that were meaningful because of a particular "story" (first goal in Senior National Team for Yokoyama, and it's a screamer; foul on Ando and Miyama's PK, and here is the moment when the Andobear sub-plot starts; etc...).
    But (although I could be wrong) I guess the more popular parameter to choose goals from people on this thread is an aesthetic one: people tend to chose "the more beautiful goal" (once again, this could mean different things for different people: an elegant and technical team effort? An accurate and powerful middle-range shot? A swift and savvy counter-attack? An acrobatic proof of athelticism?). Whatever this aesthatic parameter can mean for different people here, I guess few consider a PK or an own-goal an especially "beautiful" goal and I guess that's the reason why the semi-final goals got so few votes (I could go as far as to imagine that, since And G voted Laura Bassett's as his best goal for 2015, there was also a little bit of an ironic intention in it and that he wanted to underline that Bassett's was the kind of "beautiful" shot that he wished and he would have expected from a Japan's FW; but I don't like backward reasoning, so I am going to suppose that he simply chose that goal because it was someway the most important one of the season and because it was a so incredible ending for a very thrilling WWC semi-final).

    For my part, I don't always have an aesthatic reason to chose goals: I like to mix it up with other parameters, but I will admit that, anyway, aestathic is quite prevalent for me; I seldom chose a random scramble in the box or an own-goal, no matter how important or thrilling that goal was.
     
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  13. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    GOTY Disclaimer:
    Due to a miscommunication from both of us, #5nadeshikofan ranking points on GOTY table are in fact different from actuals. With #5nadeshikofan's help and some small ;) sacrifice, situation is now resolved and ranking stands unchanged.
     
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  14. TabascoT

    TabascoT Member

    Dec 1, 2011
    Austin, Texas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Blissett, I think you are "Chomping at the bit", to give comments to the top 10 GOTY. I know I would like your commentary, so go for it!! :D:ROFLMAO::thumbsup::whistling:

    Based on the last 3 voting sessions, I would say the preference is for goals from outside the area (Uetsugi, Nagasato, Sakaguchi). But please, more commentary!!
     
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  15. unepomme

    unepomme Member+

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    My criteria for this selection are quite simple; beautiful or unpredictable.
    For example, since ordinary Japanese players can't score in those kinds of situations like Yokoyama or Sugita's ones, I didn't expect their goals at all then.
     
  16. #5nadeshikofan

    #5nadeshikofan Member+

    INAC Kobe
    May 26, 2012
    Plymouth, Michigan, USA
    Club:
    Vegalta Sendai
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I like goals out of a well organized game situation with everyone where they are supposed to be, like the Sameshima goals last year vs. Canada and here goal vs Cameroon this year. Chance shots look nice and fullfill the purpose, but proving that players act like a team is more what I like to see.
     
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  17. unepomme

    unepomme Member+

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Inac
    GK Kaihori
    DF Kinga Kai Tanaka Sameshima
    MF Kawasumi Ito Miki Sawa Nakajima
    FW Ohno Takase

    Vegalta
    GK Cameron
    DF Sakai Yamamoto Chiba Ideue
    MF Kakazu Tahara Kawamura Nakano
    FW Inoue Arimachi
     
  18. unepomme

    unepomme Member+

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Kaihori super saved Kawamura's great shot ('35).
     
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  19. unepomme

    unepomme Member+

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Ohno scored with heading from CK ('39)!
     
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  20. unepomme

    unepomme Member+

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    At half time:

    Vegalta 0-1 Inac
     
  21. Titus Sol

    Titus Sol Member

    Jul 7, 2015
    Club:
    --other--
    679493808371974145 is not a valid tweet id
     
  22. unepomme

    unepomme Member+

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nakajima scored ('61).
     
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  23. unepomme

    unepomme Member+

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    final result:

    Vegalta 0-2 Inac (Ohno, Nakajima)

    The old strong Inac has returned in a sense. Every player except Takase seems to keep good conditions and of course they had strong concentration through the whole game maybe in the name of in behalf of Sawa.
    My POM is Kawasumi.
     
  24. Sirtel

    Sirtel Member

    Oct 28, 2015
    Deserved win for INAC, they were all excellent today. All they have to do now is deliver a similar performance in the final.
     
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  25. unepomme

    unepomme Member+

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Beleza
    GK Yamashita
    DF Shimizu Iwashimizu Muramatsu Ariyoshi
    MF Uetsuji Sakaguchi Hara Nakasato
    FW Tananmina Momiki

    Albi
    GK Fukumura
    DF Sayama Kitahara Nakamura Kojima
    MF Saeki Sakaguchi Yamada Kamionobe
    FW Ohishi Yamazaki
     
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