Official 2015 ACL Thread

Discussion in 'Japanese Club Football' started by Whispered11, Nov 29, 2014.

  1. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    I smell someone who likes to bet on football, they tend to see conspiracies at every corner.
     
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  2. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    yep, I know I used a too aggresive word ... sorry, is due of language, don't know how to say better... I know at 2-2 both teams must attack, and probably Seoul catch in counter-attack ... I watch other match in time :D

    unfortunatelly for Kashima, they weak up too later, after first 3 matches they had only 1 pt
     
  3. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    If you only knew how many matches is being manipulated or fixed every week, you would be a bit more suspicious as well;)

    (To know 100% is of course impossible unless you are in on it yourself, but when you see how odds can change for no apparent reason, and a certain defender(s) or referee who are already on a "blacklist of possibly dodgy players", make several big mistakes that can only be described as either extremely clumsy or deliberate, you kind of get the picture. Especially when it happens over and over again... )
     
  4. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    I know how many but I try not to think about it, otherwise I wouldn't watch football anymore.
     
  5. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    So we got 2 Japanese teams through ( both as group winners). Thats acceptable I think.

    Japan: 2 teams ( 1st place x2)
    China: 2 teams ( 1st place x2)
    Korea: 3 teams (2nd place x3)
    Thailand: 1 team ( 2nd place x1)

    Mostly disappointing for Australia, who fails to get any teams past the group stage, but both W Sydney and Brisbane performed good and it was only margins that saw them lose out ( Brisbane completely dominated Beijing in R1 for example, but still lost 0-1).

    Guess Korea is the winner in East Asia, although having the 3 teams all qualify in 2nd place suggests that neither of them can be considered among the clear favorites for the title ( but all 4 groups were very evenly matched this season, so it might not mean too much anyway).

    Oh, and credit to Buriram for pulling through! Nice to see them taking further steps, as a stronger South East Asia-region can only benefit the entire Asia in the long run.
     
  6. greenlion

    greenlion Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    CHINA
    Club:
    Beijing Guoan
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Buriram is out
     
  7. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    #132 Radu Razvan, May 6, 2015
    Last edited: May 6, 2015
    Seems yes Basse. Very strange situation, but was a tiebreaker between top 3 teams

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    So, the results against R&F were not important.
     
  8. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Damn, I was aware of that rule, but can almost swear I read on the AFC-site that Buriram qualified 1 hour ago, so I didnt look into it lol

    Thats a pity though, then we have 4 Korean teams through.
     
  9. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    but Gamba avoid Guangzhou.
     
  10. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    yes, but you see Evergrande so strong with Fabio on the bench?
     
  11. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    They are nowhere near as impressive as they were a couple of seasons ago with Muriqui and Conca spearheading their campaign, but they are still quite a force and got some very good FWs. But certainly not unbeatable.
     
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  12. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Kenta Hasegawa is not bad. Maybe he can coach the JNT one day?
     
  13. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    So Gamba vs FC Seoul
    & Kashiwa vs Suwon.

    They will face the weakest opponents among Korean teams.
     
  14. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Seoul is not weak.
     
  15. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
  16. GunnerTNB

    GunnerTNB Member+

    Apr 4, 2011
    São Paulo
    Club:
    Botafogo Rio Janeiro
    He looks like a good coach because he has Usami winning matches for him.
     
  17. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Gamba is not only Usami. Cerezo got relegated despite their squad last year.
     
  18. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Yes, maybe you are right Gordon. Also, the coach it's important and they will not promote if they will keep Autori.
     
  19. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    A coach's importance depends tho. Someone like Klopp can get the best out of average players whereas at Real Madrid before Ancelotti, a lot of world-class managers did not manage to get to the CL final despite having a very good squad.
     
  20. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    If the coach is so important why is Juventus in CL final? =p
     
  21. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    do you see max a really bad coach? why?
     
  22. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Allegri is not a bad coach. He once beat Barcelona with a half-decent Milan team.
     
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  23. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Own goal by Kashiwa. Silly mistake.
     
  24. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Lol, South Korea heading towards 0 teams in the next round! Hard to see Suwon or Seoul turn around their results against the Japanese teams, and neither Jeonbuk or Seongnam won their home-game, and Beijing and Evergrande will be rather big favorites in the 2nd leg.

    Edit: I spoke too soon as Seongnam just scored the 2-1 goal in injury-time with only 10 men. Still, they face an extremely tough task in Guangzhou even with a 2-1 lead.
     
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  25. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Guangzhou just have to win 1-0 at home. They should be able to do it. The K-league schedule is tough plus they have to fly all the way to Guangzhou.
     

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