Official “Is Brad Friedel bad at his job?” Thread

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  1. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mike Burns has now officially said "for the third year we haven't got in, and to be so close." [my bold]

    How the F@#$(@#$@#FSFDF#@$@#$ does this moron have a job?
     
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  2. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It kind of reminds me of how the Krafts kept Bobby Grier on after the Pats didn't make the playoffs for two straight years.

    Oh, wait, they didn't do that, did they?
     
  3. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    That was pretty tone deaf. And, inaccurate - we really weren't that close.
     
  4. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is so very much a "We must protect our phony-baloney jobs, Gentlemen!" type of quote from Burns.
     
  5. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Harumph!

    :D
     
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  6. Feldspar

    Feldspar Member+

    Nov 19, 1998
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only in Revs world can the stink burger that has been the latter half of this season be seen as “so close.”
     
  7. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The season was over that night when they were ahead of the Galaxy, 2-1 at the 90th minute yet still managed to lose.
     
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  8. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Recently, Mike Burns and his wife were spotted at an Atlantic City hotel. Mike told his wife was going to stop by the casino. At the roulette wheel, he put two dollars down on red, and won. So, he decided to let it ride.

    He kept doubling his winnings until he had over half a million dollars. He decided to let it ride one more time, then he would cash out. But he lost.

    When he got back to his room, his wife asked him how he did. He said, "Oh, I lost 2 dollars."

    True story...
     
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  9. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alternative punchline is, "I was so close..."
     
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  10. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :unsure:
     
  11. Brian in Boston

    Brian in Boston Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    MA & CA, USA
    The New England Revolution were "so close" to the 2018 MLS Playoffs in the same manner that Mike Burns is "so good" at his job.
     
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  12. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    I'm not so sure I am buying what Friedel is selling lately.
     
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  13. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's becoming increasingly evident that the players aren't buying it either.
     
  14. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brad seems to agree with that assessment. But for me, the home loss to Philly was the breaking point:

     
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  15. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    What happens now that the guys brought in under Friedel's reign (moneybags Mancienne, e.g.) start stinking up the joint?

    His salary is crazy for what the Revs get in return.
     
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  16. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brad will pass the buck until we are at the same point a year or two down the road. He will be gone after 3 years max.
     
  17. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like it or not (and I DIDN'T like the decision to hire him), he has to get another year.

    This crap that he's pulling of throwing his players under the bus over and over again has to stop though. If nothing else, he can learn that from the "other" coach in that building, who generally keeps things in house. After a loss, "we have to do better, better coaching, better defense, etc" ... Friedel on the other hand has no problems throwing his players under (paraphrasing because I can't find the exact quote)... "they're already on vacation."
     
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  18. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    I don't really believe they believe it - it's just for public consumption. The lack of media scrutiny allows this team to avoid having to acknowledge reality.
     
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  19. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. Talk about killing confidence. Pretty sure that's what he did to Diego based on first vs second half performance.

    There's positive and negative ways to motivate people. The best managers know how to get the balance right. He's not among those managers.
     
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  20. pwykes

    pwykes Member

    Apr 18, 1999
    Auburn, MA
    Nothing will happen. Excuses will be made and management will all get bonuses. There is no accountability with this team because Kraft doesn't give a damn.

    Agree 100%. This is one of the main reasons I don't like Friedel. I don't think he has any idea how to motivate players. He's too quick to blame/shame them publicly by his statements to the press or by leaving them off the bench. He comes across to me as smug an arrogant - he knows best but his players are too incompetent. He needs to look in the mirror.

    If Burns isn't gone after overseeing yet another failure of a season, I'm done with this team completely. I'm not holding my breath though.
     
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  21. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Need to find the tweet that was posted again, but basically Friedel said one of the problems he has with the players in this league is that they're too nice. A new player comes in and they're actually treated like humans. He equates that to his introduction to teams in Europe when the other GKs wouldn't like him, and the friends of those GKs would also not like him because of that.
     
  22. Dr. Sneezy

    Dr. Sneezy Member

    Jul 2, 2016
    I agree 100%. I only watched the 1st half last night but that sure didn't look like a team that was playing hard for its coach

    And to ghost Zahibo when he got subbed off was, to me, bush league. You already made clear your displeasure by subbing him off in the first half. Would it kill you to shake his hand?
     
  23. pwykes

    pwykes Member

    Apr 18, 1999
    Auburn, MA
    It would be one thing if Friedel had a great, proven track record as a winning coach and he behaved that way. His record so far as a professional coach pretty much stinks so you’d think/hope he’d be a little more humble.
     
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  24. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His halftime interview really didn't sit well with me. You've got to share some of the blame for this debacle. I'm increasingly afraid Friedel doesn't know what he's doing. Some say he needs another year. I'm struggling to find evidence he would be a better manager.
    Here's a suggestion. Whoever the next head coach of the Revo is, it not be his first coaching gig.
     
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  25. VTSoccerFan

    VTSoccerFan Member+

    New England Revolution, Vermont Catamounts, NCFC
    United States
    Jun 28, 2002
    Cary, NC
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    This is Brad's quote on the Revs players being too nice to new guys. In Brad's experience (overseas) players on the team treat new guys poorly because the new guy is there to take a job from somebody already in the team.

    My first thought was, I wonder if Brad was ever on a team with open roster spots when a new guy was brought aboard? Why treat that new guy like crap, he can only help since you are already short handed.
     
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