Obama Failure Thread Part IV

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  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
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    May 12, 2009
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    I'm not denying what you're saying, or that Fortune is right leaning, but the reality is that any time any member of the media attacks a Republican viewpoint, they are dismissed by Republicans as being part of the liberal media.
     
  2. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
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    We all know we're tilting at windmills, Yoshou.
     
  3. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Badge of honor that.
     
  4. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
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    Seems like either a flux capacitor or a dimension portal is required
     
  5. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    WOMD might get the job done too.
     
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  6. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
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    Jimmy Carter accuses US of "Widespread Abuse of Human Rights"

     
  7. ToasterLeavins

    Mar 25, 2003
    NJ USA
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    Everton FC
    Jimmy carter must be a racist.

     
  8. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    I bet he gets a nice talking-to like Billy Clinton did a few weeks back.
     
  9. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
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    Probably why the program was shiit-canned back in 2007. Newsflash: we are now talking about Fast and Furious.
     
  10. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Today is the day that Marty Mcfly arrived at the future.
     
  11. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
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    False...this is an internet hoax...true future date is 10.26.2015

    [/geekout]
     
  12. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Damn, i fell for it... It was funny when a friend posted it to my wall...
     
  13. DynamoEAR

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    May 30, 2011
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    I'm seeing comparisons that the Colorado fires are turning into "Obama's Katrina"

    Any thoughts on this?
     
  14. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
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    stop watching fox news
     
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  15. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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    Annual Western Wildfires, particularly in California, have their causes in extremely poor land use & development practices and policies over the last 50 years, as well as water policy and agricultural policy that allows farming in the ********ing desert.
     
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  16. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Blaming climate change on Obama? Man what isn't he responsible for?o_O
     
  17. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Nice try. You're the one who tried (and failed) to argue that the Bush program was much different, and you're the one who posted a nutjob video that compares Holder and Obama to Bond villians. I don't think anyone is arguing that F&F was a great idea or that it was carried out well. But the nutjob NRA theory, which you seem to have bought based on what you've posted, falls apart when it's pointed out that ATF ran a similar program, also poorly carried out, during the Bush admin. That's why the NRA and useful idiots like you are bending over backwards to argue that Wide Receiver was so different.
     
  18. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Yeah that's gotta be Fox because it makes no sense at all. The Colorado fires ain't nothing in the grand scheme of things.
     
  19. Michael Russ

    Michael Russ Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Buffalo, NY

    I am just starting to read up on this, but wouldn't a legitamite argument be that the whole "this is the same as what the bush administration did" is really just a "cover up line" an in fact it is the difference between what this administration did and what the Bush administration did would be apparent in the documents that Holder is refusing to release? Unfortunately it is a chicken and an egg thing. One side says you are hiding the documents to cover for the political implications that they contain, and the other says you are only asking for the documents for political reasons. The only real solution is to come up with a compromise that makes the documents available, citing extensive executive priviledge never works.

    As I understand it, the reason the pro gun people are concerned about this operation is because they think that the people in the Obama administration were actually trying to use the program for political reasons that the Bush administarion would not have been doing. While the original, if misguided, idea of the Bush administration might have been to help develop stronger conspiracy cases against cartels, they believe the "secret" Obama administration intent was to discredit the state of Arizona's weak gun laws.

    The thought was that the Obama administration was trying to make Arizona "look bad" buy purposefully allowing guns sold in Arizona to end up in the hands of criminals so that when the criminals use them they can point to Arizona and say, "see you need to toughen up your gun laws".
     
  20. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    Conspiracy theories are awesome!
     
  21. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
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    Actually it was all a double bluff.

    Obama tricked the pro-gun people into thinking that so that everyone would realise they were a bunch of nutters as they tried to prove the 'secret conspiracy'
     
  22. Michael Russ

    Michael Russ Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Buffalo, NY
    The FBI, the Cia, and th mob all conspiring to kill the president, or a backroom studio faking the moon landing are awsome.. the fact that some bureaucrats would suggest turning a blind eye to some criminals buying guns, because they were frustrated with weak gun laws.... kinda boring.
     
  23. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
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    Considering Obama is actually coming to Colorado Springs on Friday because of it, I'd say no.
     
  24. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

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    When an 18yo can walk into a gun shop, buy 50 AK-47s, and hand them off to someone in the parking lot, all while the ATF watches and can do nothing about it, Arizona does need to tighten up its gun laws.
     
  25. NGV

    NGV Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Colorado Springs, of course, is a bastion of anti-tax, limited government sentiments.

    Maybe they should be taking this opportunity to show that they don't need any help from the US taxpayer, and can fight their fires through individual initiative and the magic of market forces.
     
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