Obama Failure Thread Part IV

But is he really?


I think that only a game of 21 could decide that.

 

Sorry, but Herb...er...Herman would get crushed. How tall is the pizza man anyways? From the debates, it looks like he's under 6-foot. Barry would take him down low and work a little Mark Aguirre on him.

 

Or a game of hockey.

 

In defense of Obama ... I just saw a remarkable poll output (Daily Kos). Every single poll demographic, including Democrats (!), lean toward Obama being too liberal rather than too conservative.

Wow. The President proposes austerity rather than spending, preserves tax cuts for the wealthy, lowers the estate tax, continues Guantanamo, kills Bin Laden through an illegal act, continues TSA, has an anti-illegal immigrant rule so severe that some states won't comply, etc. ... and Dems lean toward the notion that he's too liberal. (In fairness, most say that he's "just right" but those that criticize are likelier to do so because he's too liberal rather than too conservative.)

Well I guess I really should back off the guy, he doesn't always explain his case well but in a country where Maggie Thatcher would be a left-centrist (only slight exaggeration) it's a bit hard for him to do anything very progressive.

Oh, and one bright spot for the President -- even two thirds of Republicans say that the Buffett tax should be enacted. It's an outright winner for him and he should club Republican politicians mercilessly with it. Either they finally give him something in return for his concessions, or they don't and then Obama very credibly can say "Look nobody can work with these people, they are so beholden to a small minority that they will refuse to enact the will of the people."

 

Forgive me, but there is no way that ad ran for a month. Two weeks max.

 

Oh, the funnies rack up today. The legality or illegality of an act in the international system. Hoo boy. You crack me up.

 

What makes you say that? Are you privy to the ad's broadcast schedule?

 

Based on the positive reaction when the ads came out and the when they first appeared on my TV screen. Are you privy to the schedule?

 

No, but I'm more inclined to trust Ford's digital PR guy over you.

Also, that doesn't explain how you came to the conclusion that the ad only ran for two weeks.

 

His tweets are sweet. Is it too much to ask for a more formal confirmation?

As I said, the buzz over the ads started about 10 days ago, around the same time I saw the ad on my TV screen. I've got nothing other than that. What do you got?

 

Maybe, but why make such a big fuss over a lazy opinion writer who couldn't be bothered to even call Ford's PR.

Well, that's kinda how ad campaigns are. There are some big-budget brand campaigns with lot of legs, but for a retail campaign like this, the wear-out is pretty quick and it might take a couple of weeks for buzz to build without a big PR push behind it. Plus, they still have the ad up on their YouTube channel - either Obama's henchman isn't doing a good job of henchmanning or there just aren't enough pieces to add up to a conspiracy.

 

Also, a couple more words from Ford:
https://www.facebook.com/ford/posts/218643818196208

and
https://twitter.com/#!/Ford/status/118788383429496832

 

What a peculiar reaction. It's illegal to send troops into a neutral country's territory. If somebody did it to us, we'd declare war.

 

I didn't say the other country cannot retaliate. What I said is that it's not illegal. There is no international law that cannot be broken. There is no arbiter in the system who looks on the US and says "That was very wrong of you, boy, very wrong" and can punish them. Case in point: did we ever get punished for mining the Nicaraguan harbors?

 

OK fine. I will restate. "Eff the world opinion we're better than them so we do what we want" is the righty view. "Oh we're global citizens we only do what is internationally approved, otherwise we would be bad people " is the lefty view. Obama steered very much right with Osama. That is the point.

 

Is it the lefty view? If the UN Security Council had approved our invasion into Iraq, did it automatically make it a good thing? Did it make it legal?

 

I think you guys do misunderstand me. I think it's a bad thing that international law is a joke. I just think that if it is a joke, our country should benefit from it.

 

Yeah mostly although American lefties are still rightish in the grand scheme of things, which is why they're mostly fine with flying over Pakistan and assassinating somebody.

 

It wasn't just assassinating "someone," it was a guy that even the Dolly-Freakin'-Llama was in favor of bumping off.

 

Yes well, the point being that no matter how the target was, Obama's decision to fly troops over a foreign country and kill the guy would seem to suggest that he's not "too liberal" to be President.