Obama Failure Thread Part IV

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  1. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Me personally, I was hoping for a little piece of that Austerity Awesomeness that they've got going in Europe right now.
     
  2. chaski

    chaski Moderator
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    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    Now you're trying to bait MasterShake.
     
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  3. HouseHead78

    HouseHead78 Member+

    Oct 17, 2006
    Austin, TX
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    United States
  4. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you get that out of a bag of Doritos?
     
  5. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, he is technically correct. It is unprecedented in recent history for government spending to accelerated at a rate as low as it is under Obama... :)
     
  6. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What kind of Doritos? I remember when Cool Ranch came out like it was only yesterday.
     
  7. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that graph is just full of emotions
     
  8. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    if I recall my Think-Tank Generated, Rant-Radio Amplified Talking Points correctly, Schapes will inform us that, while it is true the numbers are bigger when Republicans are in the White House, it's more important to look at which party controls Congress. That's the true reason why Clinton and Obama look better than patrio... Republican presidents
     
  9. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obama gave the order.

    Except for that **************** that wrote the book that probably exposed his fellow SEAL possible retribution
     
  10. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's gonna have to pick another snack, Doritos already had another candidate in the bag ;)

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  11. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    I think the lede has been buried here, folks.

    The real story in the past few pages has been the fact that some apparently conservative posters have been arguing that some people should pay more taxes.
     
  12. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    That sounds like some kind of BDSM.. Is it softcore or Hardcore?
     
  13. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    - Impending depression was turned into a recession.
    - Went from losing 750k jobs/month to stabilizing the unemployment numbers.
    - Health care reform/more people covered by health care.
    - Bin Laden dead/Al Quaeda weakened.
    - Ended useless war in Iraq which you cannot afford anyway.
    - brought back stem-cell research.
    - saved General Motors.
    - number of terrorist attacks in the USA since becoming President = 0

    And last but not least, kept John McCain (aka Bush the Third) out of the White House.
     
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  14. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't help but hear Karl Pilkington's voice in my head when I read your posts.
     
  15. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001

    You come back and tell me how great Obamacare is when your employer realizes it is cheaper to pay the fine for not providing insurance as opposed to paying for your healthcare. Then you will be on
    Obamacare - you can tell me at that time how great it is.
     
  16. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do I have to do this? God, I don't want to have to do this. Sure, it's copy+paste at this point, but couldn't we make him read into the history of this thread?

    I'm going to have to do this. But I'm doing it my way, dammit.

    Alrighty, Schapes, Politifact.com has compiled a series of promises made by the President in 2008. 508 promises, in fact. So as of today, Politifact gives him the following score:

    Promise Kept: 190
    Compromise: 72
    Promise Broken: 83
    Stalled: 49
    In the Works: 112
    Not Yet Rated: 2

    Here are the various ways we can attribute 'success' and 'failure. The most restrictive is to say all things "Kept" or "In the Works" are successes (they are things he's actually done/doing), with all else failures. That's 59% combined. Or we could add "Compromise" since we want our leaders to compromise, right? That's how the Founding Fathers designed the federal government so we'll call it a success. His success rate goes up to 73%.

    Here's the method I prefer: assume 506 (the two unrated ones can't work here) and give each category a value between 0 and 1. So, a perfect Presidency would receive a score of 506. "Promises Kept" = 1, In the Works = 0.75, Compromise = 0.50, Stalled = 0.25, Promise Broken = 0. On that metric, the President receives a score of:

    Kept - 190
    In the Works - 84
    Compromise - 36
    Stalled - 12.25
    Promise Broken - 0

    Total - 63.69% success rate for the President.

    This means that President Obama accomplished about 64%, just shy of two third, of what he wanted from his entire goddamn Presidency in one term. Moreover, since 99% of that happened while he was in his first two years, we would assume the President would accomplish a great deal more if Democrats were to take back both houses of Congress.

    There is absolutely no objective metric by which someone can judge the Presidency of Barack Obama a failure. It does better than 50% accomplishments by any metric. Do not link any more case studies. It's pathetic and small.
     
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  17. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had no idea that noted Obama worshiper Warren Buffett coined the term "skin in the game." Schapes may need to find a new catchphrase.
     
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  18. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My employer provides healthcare currently despite the fact that there is no penalty if they don't. So you're suggesting that once there is a fine, they will drop our healthcare plans? That makes sense.
     
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  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    Well the Latvia type would have been nice, but we are too big of a country for that to work.

    http://articles.businessinsider.com...1696287_1_eurozone-austerity-latvian-minister

    The Guardian does agree with you

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/04/austerity-policy-eurozone-crisis
     
  20. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can you explain why those companies would drop coverage and pay a fine when, pre-ACA, they could have just dropped it with no fine? I mean, why, under the existing system, would they have offered health benefits to their employees in the first place?

    Damn: Luftmensch beat me to it.
     
  21. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well duh, because free markets and stuff.
     
  22. GiuseppeSignori

    Jun 4, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Schnapps here could really benefit from reading this article...

    Joining the Reality-Based Community



     
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  23. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
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    Arsenal FC
    The game.
     
  24. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "On Obamacare"? Perhaps you can explain what you think that means.
     
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  25. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Big Game?

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