Obama Failure Thread Part IV

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  1. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
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    Because you have no response beyond repeating Heritage Foundation-fed talking points.
     
  2. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
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    Did he now? When did he promise that?
     
  3. That Phat Hat

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    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._recession_turned_out_to_be_a_lot_deeper.html

    I think it was a silly promise to make, since deficit reduction should always come second to getting out of a recession (in fact, getting out of a recession is a pretty good way to reduce deficit), and a recessions caused by a real estate market collapse are a bitch. In a sense, if he has to break a promise, that's a pretty good one to break.
     
  4. Schapes

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    Aug 20, 2001

    Probably not, but I would hope the likelihood of them voting would increase. I would think if they had to pay federal income taxes instead of getting agree ride - they would be more likely to pay attention.
     
  5. Dr. Wankler

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    Okay...

    Which party had control of Congress from 1995 through 2006?
     
  6. That Phat Hat

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    Why the focus on that one particular tax instead of all the others?
     
  7. Dr. Wankler

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    Wait, you're letting Congress off the hook this time?

    You are a Talking Point Machine!.

    bravo.
     
  8. That Phat Hat

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    That's weird. I thought you were the one talking about fairness and "skin in the game" and stuff, while we menstrual lefties are talking about the economic impact of tax cuts on low income earners.
     
  9. Barbara

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    I can't currently watch the video and the text doesn't tell me what I really want to know. When, exactly, was he promising that? Was it in the spring or summer of 2008, before we knew the economy was about to go tits-up? Or was it after September, when it was clear that the doodoo was deep? Because one of those is more forgiveable than the other.
     
  10. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    So you were talking out of your ass. Thought so.
     
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  11. That Phat Hat

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    February 2009.

    I don't know, I think it was a dumb promise to make regardless of when he made it. Even in 2008, I think we knew that we were headed for deep shit.
     
  12. That Phat Hat

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    Gosh, the Heritage Foundation hasn't done a study on Skin in the Game-ology? How can we be expected to carry a conversation if they don't feed us the talking points?
     
  13. chaski

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    If they pay attention to current events, they will vote for Obama.
     
  14. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    Oh, definitely a stupid promise to make in Feb 2009. Really stupid.

    It was late 2008 when the doodoo deepened. September or so. Prior to that we knew that there was a recession, but not how scary it would be.
     
  15. Schapes

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  16. Dr. Wankler

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    He's googling as fast as he can.
     
  17. luftmensch

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    Income inequality makes me sad and angry, but taxing the rich and giving handouts to the poor makes me happy, so take from the rich and give it to the poor!

    Something like that?
     
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  18. That Phat Hat

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    I tend to ignore political pledges from all candidates. They're generally misguided pandering.

    But I'm particularly dismissive of promises when it comes to deficits, because even the "fiscal hawks" in Congress aren't interested in reducing them.
     
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  19. luftmensch

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  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Yes. Yes they should.

    Look up the data on the different tax rates at different points on the income scale in the US, and you'll see that

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  21. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001

    So he was lying?
     
  22. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001

    He also promised if we passed the stimulus - unemployment wouldn't touch eight percent. Oops.

    http://www.akdart.com/obama131.html
     
  23. Dr. Wankler

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