NPSL 2017 expansion and contraction

Discussion in 'NPSL' started by annapolis, Sep 11, 2016.

  1. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently. Rochester Lancers announced today. To play this season. Which is already underway (out west, at least).

    Please don't try and tell me again that this is a real league.
     
  2. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, since I posted that I have learned that, and I stand corrected.

    At least I didn't ********ing plagiarize, jagov.
     
  4. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    nah you just jumped the gun and got your facts wrong...good job
     
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  5. mike the mas

    mike the mas Member

    Feb 19, 2017
    Well you are kinda right kenn. This isn't one league, its ten with a postseason tournament. Each conference has enough independence, its much more like the NCAA then a normal soccer league. The west starting has little to no effect on the Midwest till the final 4.
     
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  6. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It appears as though the Liverpool Warriors, who were on the NPSL schedule when it was originally promulgated, are no more.
     
  7. USRufnex

    USRufnex Member+

    Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
    #107 USRufnex, May 14, 2017
    Last edited: May 14, 2017
    Supposedly it was Dallas City that was not going to be around for 2017, but instead it was Liverpool. They actually had already scheduled tryouts for March, then cancelled them. They continue as a youth soccer organization. I'd heard they were flirting with leaving the NPSL for a couple of years claiming they wanted to be in a more competitive league -- translation: one they could be more successful in?

    Oddly enough, a team based in Norman, OK that originally convinced OKC Energy to give them the nod as Energy U23 in PDL seem to have decided to split into their own soon-to-be-announced for 2018 NPSL club... Welcome the Oklahoma City Fighting IMPS!

    [​IMG]

    http://www.tulsaathletic.com/single-post/2017/05/12/First-Exhibition-Game-Announced

     
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  8. Stephen York

    Stephen York Member

    Dec 9, 2015
    Tampa, FL.
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    I'd say it would be more like "translation: one they do not have to pay a fee to annually and can travel less."
     
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  9. annapolis

    annapolis Member

    Jul 3, 2001
    I can think of a solution for this kind of problem but don't think I'll post it. Don't want to be accused of being a troll.
     
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  10. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. USRufnex

    USRufnex Member+

    Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
    Eat me.
     
  12. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't argue with that. Liverpool Warriors went 6-5-1 last year. The very definition of mid-table obscurity. Where, exactly, is the solution to their problem? They couldn't go pro, they are just a nothingburger of a club. Are they going to go to the UPSL, the prawn utopia? So they just take their ball and go home. But I'm sure if there was a mechanism for them to be promoted, they would have tried harder and ridden that wave of new investment, with all its glorious possibilities, right straight to the non-existent D3.

    You have no coherent argument, Jeff. You never have. You have gotten your ass kicked rhetorically here for years and you are no closer today to your prawn dream than you were five years ago or eight years ago. So you whine about how unfair it is and how poorly people treat you and how you're persecuted by the mods and what a martyr you are for the cause.

    You're just another keyboard warrior, Jeff. Your "movement" is no closer to achieving its goal today than it was eight years ago. Just a bunch of whiny-ass tweeters.

    Eat that, jagov.
     
  13. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    You two need to stop bickering like children on a public forum.
     
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  14. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    but that is Kenn's life work...sigh
     
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  15. USRufnex

    USRufnex Member+

    Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
    #115 USRufnex, May 23, 2017
    Last edited: May 23, 2017
    As I'm sure you're already aware, teams have differing reasons for competing at this level.

    For Liverpool, it was always a simple extension of their youth club with the desire to use a competitive NPSL club as a playing outlet for some of their coaching staff as well as a way to recruit new youth coaches, while also snagging some solid college talent from traditional NCAA D-1 power SMU. IMHO, it's sort of an NPSL flipside to why we see MLS2 teams competing in USL. In 2013, a new NPSL South Central division with four new clubs was created... the clubs were: Tulsa Athletics, Liverpool Warriors (Plano, TX), Houston Regals and Houston Hurricanes.

    The A's and Liverpool were a cut above the other two clubs that first year. So the two Houston clubs voluntarily relegated themselves to Brendan's new TPSL. Houston Regals, who've been around for years in one form or other, rejoined the NPSL where they remain in "mid-table obscurity" today... I know they'd love to topple Houston Dutch Lions, FC Wichita and my club to garner a spot in next year's US Open Cup. You know, in the spirit of yearly competition?... rewarding clubs for their success on the field?

    But if the US Open Cup decides to cater to the whims of the more egotistical multi-millionaire owners of USL, there won't be nearly as many open cup bids for NPSL next year as we got this year and we'll continue to play these games in early May at a time when many of our players will have just arrived in town after finishing their final college exams.

    A "nothingburger of a club?" I mean, who are you to judge why either Dallas City or Liverpool decided against competing in the NPSL in this particular year? They compete at their discretion.

    With a good coach and good recruitment, maybe they improve markedly and win the conference... maybe they win their way through Chattanooga and take on Grand Rapids or Detroit or AFC Cleveland. Or maybe it's Houston Regals this year the way Dutch Lions succeeded last year, happily hosting USL's San Antonio FC in a reasonably competitive early May US Open Cup matchup. If there's been a "nothingburger of a club" for the majority of their existence, that title would surely go to Michael Hitchcock's outfit, Ft Worth Vaqueros, who happen to be off to a pretty good start so far this season.

    And maybe, just maybe... a club that has a great season like Liverpool, Dutch Lions, Regals or Dallas City would respectfully decline promotion b/c they either can't handle the requirements or don't want to move into a bigger pond with bigger fish. But I know teams in places like Little Rock, Wichita and Memphis would desire that option over being co-opted or blindsided by some unspecified future USL D3 expansion bid.

    Not responding to this particular strawman argument laced with any made up stereotypical SLUR, "prole" or "prawn."

    That's their call, not mine.
    And it will happen from time to time no matter what, much like small businesses fail in this country.
    It's a zero sum game this time around, considering everybody was convinced Dallas City would be the ones not competing, only to have them playing in our conference this year instead of Liverpool.

    I wish we had an NPSL D3 to address the stronger, consistently more successful teams in the league. And if the NPSL doesn't address it, then soon enough USL will try to pick them off one by one for their own D3.

    Repeating the same lie about my POV will never make it true, jagov.
    I wasn't even part of the convo eight years ago, and my opinions on the subject are far more coherent, informed, and nuanced than you'll ever care to admit.

    You've been repeating that same LIE for years, and I've come to the following conclusion:
    You really don't care whether someone knows what they're talking about, the only thing you care about is whether myself or others agree with the overwhelming majority of your opinions.

    Being barred from two different Pro/Rel conversations speaks volumes about how poor and biased the moderating is on bigsoccer. Also, I can point to at least half a dozen times when you should have been permanently barred from bigsoccer, only to watch you get yet another little slap on the wrist.

    Sorry Kenn, but nobody's been a bigger "keyboard warrior" than you, puddin' pop. And the rest of the ProRelForUSA hating jackasses on bigsoccer are bigger "keyboard warriors" than I'll ever be. I've never maniacally spammed anyone on twitter, yet that's precisely what bigsoccer blogger Dan Loney did to me and still does to others, as recently as last month to a real sports journalist. I've never tried to befriend anyone on twitter just to try to dig up personal dirt on someone who doesn't share my views on ProRelForUSA... that would be the obnoxious little twitter troll from San Antonio who had to be blocked by the same sports journo that Dan spammed. Or Barry, whose entire reason for creating a twitter account is to perpetually antagonize any and all of us who'd like to see Pro/rel in the USA while simultaneously pretending to be open minded.

    But thanks, Kenn. Thanks to your inspiration (and inspiration from others) over the past few years, I'm more motivated than ever to lend my full throated support in favor of a long term "movement" of the 88% of American soccer fans who'd like to see Pro/Rel in this country, people who may have markedly differing opinions about how, when, and why it should be done... fans who'd like to see MLS move away from single entity... people who'd like to see lower divisions move away from increased stratification, people who'd like to see USSF move away from draconian decisions that create a potential financial windfall for comparatively well heeled and politically connected owners with horribly performing teams like the 2016 Tulsa Roughnecks pulling attendance figures out of their asses at the expense of mom-and-pop clubs who've worked their damned butts off... like mine.

     
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  16. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I don't fall into the 88% category of supporting pro/rel...I really appreciate everything that you wrote above. Your passion for the game speaks volumes...let the haters hate...it's about the only thing that Kenn is really good at.
     
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  17. USRufnex

    USRufnex Member+

    Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
    #117 USRufnex, Jun 7, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2017
    That's fine, and thanks.

    You know, if Sonny (co-owner of Tulsa Athletic) ever told me that my views on Pro/Rel were silly and that nobody in the NPSL cared about the concept, I'd stop talking about it.

    But I remember contacting Sonny and meeting him at his restaurant sometime in March of 2013, shortly after being tipped off that his new NPSL club had just signed a lease on the old ballpark, a facility I'd been desperately trying to lobby both the county and the NASL on its potential conversion to host a soccer team.

    I remember him trying to call my bluff as a fan of the old Roughnecks, asking me who my fav player was, then demanding a detailed answer why. I gave him a detailed diatribe on why Billy Caskey was a bad-ass...

    Then he asked:
    "What do you want in a general manager?"
    I answered, "I want you to be Peter Wilt."

    And, strangely enough, in his own way, he became pretty close to that... our little 4 team division multiplied and now has 12 teams in two divisions, north and south.

    And in an ironic twist, Sonny got to meet Peter Wilt again at the last NPSL general meeting. He'd told me that part of Peter's presentation involved building bridges between the divisions and the last part of it was an honest goal of Pro/Rel... so now... guess what? Remember my concern that unless the NPSL starts a 3rd division, USL will start picking off the best markets? Well....

    EXCLUSIVE: The National Independent Soccer Association (NISA) – A New Division III Professional Soccer League Expects to Launch in 2018
    New league could pave the way for Promotion and Relegation in the United States.

     
  18. USRufnex

    USRufnex Member+

    Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
  19. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
  20. USRufnex

    USRufnex Member+

    Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
    873045684370292737 is not a valid tweet id
     
  21. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://lanunited.com/?newspage=lansing-united-play-premier-development-league-pdl-2018

    LANSING UNITED TO PLAY IN PREMIER DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE (PDL) IN 2018
    October 12, 2017

    LANSING, Mich. — After four seasons in the National Premier Soccer League (NPSL), including a 2014 Midwest Region title, Lansing United will play in the Premier Development League (PDL) in 2018. The Hoops will play their first game in the PDL in May, with the release of the 2018 schedule coming at a later date.
     
  22. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Football Club Davis Joins the NPSL

    The National Premier Soccer League (NPSL) is proud to announce that Football Club Davis (Davis, CA) has joined the league as an expansion team. The club will compete in the West Region’s Golden Gate Conference.

    “The NPSL is very excited to announce our first expansion team for the 2018 season,” NPSL Chairman Joe Barone commented. “Our growth in California and the West Region continues to be strong and we are excited to welcome the Golden Lions of FC Davis to the NPSL family.”

    Adam Lewin is the owner of Football Club Davis. He is a former standout soccer player and youth coach with a passion for soccer, business, politics, music, and community building.

    “FC Davis applied to the NPSL due to the alignment in our mission, vision, and core values,” Lewin said. “From its league operations to the amazing team owners in our conference, it was a perfect match for our club. In addition, the league has a rich history with a growing national footprint. Local professional clubs have to be part of the future of soccer in this country. With the NPSL occupying so many important markets, the league's future looks brighter now more than ever.”

    Starting in 2014, Lewin had a vision of bringing a semi-pro team to Davis, California. Being in a university town with international influence full of soccer devoted fans, the market for a team that the city of Davis could call their own was severely underserved. The journey to viability started with building a player pool comprised of enough quality players to complete at the NPSL level in the Golden Gate Conference. Leveraging UC Davis Club players, UC Davis ICA players, and former local area standouts who went on to illustrious college careers, the team became a hub for talented soccer players within the region to congregate.

    FC Davis was formed in Spring of 2017 following a decision to separate the team from Davis Legacy Soccer Club for expansion purposes.

    “On the pitch, we know the Golden Gate Conference historically is very strong,” Lewin added. “Looking at the number of consecutive years a team from the conference participated in the national semi-finals proves it is one of if not the toughest conference in the country. We have assembled a preliminary roster that we expect to make us contenders right from the start. With a group of talent footballers, it should make for an exciting first season for our fans.”

    By the end of the first two years, players such as Matt Wiesenfarth, Brian Ford, Andisheh Bagheri, and countless other award-winning collegiate players took the field for the former Davis APL team. Between 2014 and 2016, the Davis APL team won consecutive NorCal League Titles playing against teams such as SF City, IFX Ballistic, and Turlock Express. The club won back-to-back NorCal State titles. They also made two appearances in U.S. Open Cup local state qualifying and was successful against a range of NCAA DI, DII, and NAIA teams.

    Since its formation, FC Davis was built to play a highly entertaining, attacking, and high pressing style of soccer. By assembling a talent pool that reflects the traits needed to carry out the desired tactical game plans, the philosophy of the club has remained consistent: to entertain.

    “Off the field, we want to use the club as a vehicle for good in the areas we serve,” Lewin continued. “Through charity and sport, we have the opportunity to impact the soccer ecosystem in our community in a unique way. From offering elite youth players the experience of training in a professional environment to sponsoring coaches in local clubs to obtain higher federation licenses, we want to construct a model that other clubs can use to improve the game for the towns and cities they reside in.”

    FC Davis will play their home games at Aggie Stadium on the beautiful UC Davis campus.

    The 105,000 square foot stadium can host 10,000 fans in the bleachers and on the two grass berms behind each goal. Complete with a 720-seated VIP section and approximately 2,500 bleacher seats with back support, the stadium offers a variety of seating options.

    The amenities of the stadium include a ticket office, video board, concession stands, and suites. Viewed as one of the premier NCAA DIAA facilities in the country, FC Davis is proud to partner with UC Davis to play at such a fan-focused venue.

    “For the league, we hope to one day be a flagship organization for how a club can operate on and off the field,” Lewin concluded. “From our game day events to community outreach, we want to show the potential impact an NPSL team can have when the pieces are put together correctly.”

    More information about the club can be found by visiting www.footballclubdavis.com or by following the club on Twitter (@FCDavis_NPSL), Facebook (@FootballClubDavis), and Instagram (@fcdavis_npsl).
     
  24. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Academica Soccer Club Joins the NPSL

    The National Premier Soccer League (NPSL) is proud to announce that Academica Soccer Club (Turlock, CA) has joined the league as an expansion team. The club will compete in the West Region’s Golden Gate Conference.

    “We are proud to see our league continue to grow in the West,” NPSL Chairman Joe Barone commented. “California has always been known as a hotbed for great soccer and we are excited to have the NPSL coming to Turlock. We’re very confident that Academica will be a tremendous addition to the Golden Gate.”

    Academica is run by a board of directors, some of whom were present when the club was founded over 40 years ago. The NPSL team will be led by head coach Sergio Sousa and Director of Public Relations Michael Rocha. Sousa has been with the club for over 15 years and is also an assistant coach for the men’s soccer program at UC Merced. Rocha is one of the Portuguese play-by-play commentators with the San Jose Earthquakes.

    “Academica Soccer Club has always made it a point to play in a competitive league since its inception,” Rocha said. “The NPSL is one of the fastest growing leagues in the U.S. and no one can doubt its quality. We are excited about the growth of not just the league but of the sport throughout the country. We want to be a part of that. We want to be part of something special.”

    The club was started in 1972 in Turlock, California. Portuguese immigrants from the Azores Islands created the Portuguese Cultural Center in Turlock in 1970 and started the team for the youth of the community. Since then, the club has become the most successful amateur club in area. Players from the club have gone on to compete at numerous colleges, both locally and throughout the country.

    “We’re expecting to compete from day one,” Rocha continued. “We want to give our community something that it can rally around and provide a quality product that our fans can be proud of. We believe with the experience of playing in the NPSL and other national leagues that some of our players have, we will be a competitive team from the start.”

    Academica joined the Central California Soccer League (CSSL) in 1977. The club has competed in the CCSL for over 30 years and won three championships during that span. The team then moved onto the NorCal Adult Soccer League in 2013. It reached the final of the league that season. The team reached the final again in 2016. The team entered in its first U.S. Open Cup tournament this year where it advanced to the second round of Open Qualifying. The team has also won numerous Portuguese club tournaments all over the state.

    “We bring a storied tradition to the league,” Rocha commented. “Being a well-known club in the valley, we have always attracted top talent from the area. We are the San Joaquin Valley’s only NPSL team. We take pride in representing our area and I think you will see that on the pitch come game time.”

    Home matches will be played at Academica Field.
    “Academica Field is situated out in the rural area of Turlock, California,” Rocha concluded. “Surrounded by cattle and corn fields, our field embodies what the Central Valley is known for worldwide. We take pride in the quality of our natural grass pitch and have been upgrading our facilities in order to provide fans a unique stadium experience. It has seen games of all types, ranging from foreign club friendlies to US Open Cup matches. Members on our board built this field and we are proud to call it home for over 30 years.”

    Academica also has a successful affiliation with Turlock Tornadoes SC and many of that club’s teams train and play at Academica facilities. Academica is also affiliated with the Our Lady of the Assumption Parish in Turlock.

    More information about the club can be found by following them on Twitter (@academicasc), Facebook (@academicasc), and Instagram (@academicaturlock).
     
  25. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which lie is that, sweetheart?
     

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