Not you again - 2019 UK general election thread.

Discussion in 'Elections' started by Naughtius Maximus, Oct 31, 2019.

  1. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
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    United States
    This exit poll will have to be wrong by a LOT for anything other than a Tory majority and me spending every day for a month getting to shit on everyone here who doesn't trust polling because of one outlier.

    You all had better hope this exit poll is wrong by a lot, or the moderators ban me, because I'm going to be unforgiving.
     
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  2. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh well......It seems worse than expected for Labour.....It is a disaster.

    And here are the full exit poll results.
    Conservatives: 368
    Labour: 191

    SNP: 55
    Liberal Democrats: 13

    Plaid Cymru: 3
    Greens: 1
    Brexit party: 0
    Others: 22
     
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  3. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the exit polls are correct, I don't see how he can survive with this drubbing. This is worse than pre-election predictions from what I saw.

    I'm a little boggled that he wasn't removed prior to the election, tbh. he completely bungled this entire process...
     
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  4. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    If it's anything like the exit poll, then his position is untenable.
     
  5. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Looks like Labour are about to get crushed, decimated really. Same with Lib Dems.
     
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  6. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    If the SNP are on 55 seats then Swinson is likely out.
     
  7. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the SNP have 55 seats then the union is dead.
     
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  8. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Combined with Brexit, unquestionably.
     
  9. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Why?
     
  10. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't care much about Jeremy, he is partly responsible for this debacle. I am truly gutted though for all Labour and Remain voters. They are about to get f*** big time by Brexit and the Tories.
     
  11. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because Boris Johnson will move to leave the EU, Scottish MSPs will vote for an independence referendum, Westminster will reject it, but Boris will lack the capital to send in the tanks.
     
  12. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    Dang!

    If this is true, the UK left needs to do a lot of soul searching.

    Probably the same exit polling on sky news.

     
  13. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Clear mandate for 2nd independence referendum.
    Polls show narrow No vote if still in EU, clear Yes vote if not.
     
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  14. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
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    United States
    And zero political will to stop them from leaving. I wonder how Northern Ireland reacts; entirely possible that Republicans get hammered by Unionists who see Brexit deal as a betrayal.
     
  15. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does it depend on why Conservatives got so many seats? If it ends up being another situation where Conservatives won largely based on FPP rather than winning a clear majority does that change the equation any? There's a risk of the left not doing anything if there's a situation where the Conservatives only got 30% of the vote, while the left got a majority, but split among parties..
     
  16. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I imagine the next Labour leader will be very happy to have Boris in charge with a plurality government when the next recession hits...other than that you're spot on.

    I wonder what a referendum on RCV would look like.
     
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  17. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Not just recession, but the disaster that Brexit will bring.
    I doubt Labour totally ditch the Corbyn path, as there's a lot of membership support, so likely someone who worked with him. Starmer is the obvious choice.
     
  18. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Starmer seems to be the obvious one indeed. He looks much more polished and charismatic than Jeremy.
     
  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you think there will be a point where the not Conservative parties merge? It seems like the Conservatives have a steady grip on the right side of the UK spectrum, but the Center and Left are split among a multitude of parties.
     
  20. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    There's also likely not much dirt on him. He's had a very high profile career prior to politics.
     
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  21. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    A bowl of gazpacho soup is more polished and charismatic than Corbyn...
     
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  22. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Labour worst result since 1935.....SMH!!! :rolleyes:

    if the exit poll is correct, Jeremy Corbyn’s election performance will be the worst by a Labour leader for more than 40 years. He will have done worse than:
    Tony Blair in 1997 - 418

    Tony Blair in 2001 - 412

    Tony Blair in 2005 - 355

    Neil Kinnock in 1992 - 271

    James Callaghan in 1979 - 269

    Jeremy Corbyn in 2017 - 262

    Gordon Brown in 2010 - 258

    Ed Miliband in 2015 - 232

    Neil Kinnock in 1987 - 229

    Michael Foot in 1983 - 209

    In fact, it would be the worst result for Labour since 1935, when the party got just 154 under Clement Attlee, who has only just taken over as party leader.
     
  23. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    For the next election, a lot will depend on how big the Tory majorities are in the seats they've taken from Labour. The MRP polling had lots of narrow leads, and if Brexit is the disaster most people expect those seats will be very insecure.
     
  24. jmartin1966

    jmartin1966 Member+

    Jun 13, 2004
    Chicago
    not going to be much movement between Republicans and Unionists
     
  25. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002


    So depending on how they've fallen, we could be looking at 400+ Tory MPs or a much smaller majority.
     

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