No matter what happens, Bigsoccer China will always be here - The National Team Thread 2011

Precedent thread:https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1815496

As of October 11th, 2011.


Upcoming matches:
November 6th, 2011: Kuwait vs. China - (Friendly: Away)
November 11th, 2011: Iraq vs. China - (2014 Qualifier: Away)
November 15th, 2011: Singapore vs. China - (2014 Qualifier: Away)
February 29th, 2012: China vs. Jordan - (2014 Qualifier: Home)

 

Re: May I wear my jersey with pride and not shame for once? - The National Team Thread 2011 [R]

DISCUSSION POINTS:

- Achieving the mission impossible: What's the probability of China winning next three matches?

- Camacho and the 4-5-1: is it actually damn effective?

- Chinese therapy to our injuries: when the hell is Hao Junmin gonna be back?

- Final Resort: Will Han Peng be our saviour?

- Zhou Yi: Will CFA continue to use this retard or hire more retards?

 

Re: May I wear my jersey with pride and not shame for once? - The National Team Thread 2011 [R]

i guess it's a bit story time:

living in vancouver, there is a huge amount of fresh and old chinese immigrants. there are many other immigrants/oversea students too, such as brazilian, japan, korean, algerian, etc.

i occasionally play weekend football, despite i suck at it.
whenever i play football, there would be all sorts of jersey, from barcelona, spain, to korea, brazil, argentina, algeria, nigeria, there is always no china kit.

i asked the chinese kids, who are wearing barcelona, manchester united, spain, france kits, if they have the team china kit, here are the usual answers:
- 媽的, 國足傻b
- 中國足球每天賭球, 你還關心嗎?
- fcuk no, waste of money
- piece of shit

then i ask them why.
they say team china has nothing for them to be proud of, they don't enter the world cup, they dun even perform well in the asian cup, there's nothing unique/worth to watch about team china, "中國人的美德: 貪污" appears is the specialty of chinese football.

so for weeks and weeks, at school, work, field, i have yet to see a chinese jersey. mind you, i still wear it, and probably i am one of the fews in my city that would wore the jersey. but for other people, they definitely dun have anything from team china that "let them wear the jersey with pride"

 

Re: May I wear my jersey with pride and not shame for once? - The National Team Thread 2011 [R]

that's people's 本性
they only support winning teams and china is nowhere near that
on the other hand
i think most chinese wouldnt mind wearing Team China Basketball Jersey

 

Re: May I wear my jersey with pride and not shame for once? - The National Team Thread 2011 [R]

hahah i got a china, romania, canada, england, czech, and several club jerseys.
trying to be rich enough to collect a jersey named with a star player for every country i visited.

Btw I am a HBC if you know what that is

 

Re: May I wear my jersey with pride and not shame for once? - The National Team Thread 2011 [R]

you, sir, are the only person that i know who collect soccer cards.
now it explains where you get those vilafria quiz materials from

 

Re: May I wear my jersey with pride and not shame for once? - The National Team Thread 2011 [R]

BEIJING FIREFIGHTER LOST A BET, DID 140 PUSH-UPS

A Beijing firefighter had a bet with the netizens on Weibo that if China loses to Iraq, he will do 140 push-ups.



China eventually lost the match and here's the video:

http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/62805740-2281486434.html

 

Re: May I wear my jersey with pride and not shame for once? - The National Team Thread 2011 [R]

CAI ZHENHUA AND WEI DI MET WITH PHILIPPE TROUSSIER

Philippe Troussier, current Shenzhen Ruby coach who led Japan to Asian Cup 2000 glory and World Cup 2002 last 16 finish, was asked by Cai Zhenhua and Wei Di (Vice Chairman or something in CFA) to give advice about Chinese football. To make everything short, he said the following:

- Japan is doing well because they have a good league system, in J-League, I could choose from 200 good players, but in China, I could only choose 30 good players from the CSL, and for the China U-23, there is much less

- China don't give a damn about youth development, for the 16 CSL clubs, only 5 or 6 clubs have youth development

- Shenzhen Ruby gives opportunties for six young Team China II players to have playing time, I don't see other clubs offering that for Team China II players (fact: Ruby uses Yi Teng and Dong Xuesheng frequently)

- the player selection criterion of the Chinese football clubs have issues, Chinese clubs tend to choose tall and strong players, I think this is not the best fit for football standard, we are not playing rugby or martial arts, football does not only rely on bodies, it relies on the brain too

- the Chinese refereeing standard is low, if we put a Chinese referee in England, he would give 20 set pieces, if we put an English referee in China, he wouldn't blew once for 90 minutes

- Japan has at least 20 oversea players, and they would bring valuable experience once they are back in Japan, meanwhile, China only has 5 or 6 oversea players

- Chinese clubs rely too much on foreigners, whichever clubs have more Brazilian foreigners, they are in the top 4 for sure

(not all points are listed here)

 

Re: May I wear my jersey with pride and not shame for once? - The National Team Thread 2011 [R]

zhang chengdong often cites his bad play from "not having enough power" in his legs. he mentioned jet lagging and not playing in team china often are other sources to his bad play.

the player that i am truly anticipating for is wang gang (in portuguese second tier now), that guy apparently is really quick, able to score goals, and create penalty chances. he will be back in china in few months when the CSL starts, and i believe his talents are something that team china needs now.

 

Re: May I wear my jersey with pride and not shame for once? - The National Team Thread 2011 [R]

too early to say. i am not sure if camacho even look at wang gang right now.
wang gang plays every match and scored a goal last game.

i think camacho will not use 4-4-2 if he has two important games (iraq and singapore) next month, as that might make team china unable to adapt to the new strategy.

if we do play 4-4-2, i still think zhang chengdong will start before wang gang since zhang plays in higher level.