NFR - No World Cup for Chicago

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by HomietheClown, Mar 15, 2018.

  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
  2. LocoGueroFutobolista

    Apr 18, 2004
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Probably wouldn't have gotten any good teams anyway.
     
  3. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Interesting that the Chicago Tribune article is basically just a rip off of the Sun Times article.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/emanuel-pulls-chicago-out-of-world-cup-bid/

    Daniel Burnham's unofficial motto for Chicago:

    Make no Little Plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood and probably themselves will not be realized...

    has been changed by Mayor Rahm Emanuel to:

    Make no Plans, lest they cost taxpayers money, have a bit of uncertainty and not directly benefit the donor class.
    (on the other hand, if they DO benefit the donor class, then that is okay)
     
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  4. skinut

    skinut Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2000
    Castle Pines, CO (or often elsewhere on earth)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's sad. Of course Gullati & Trump may guarantee it's either in Morocco or Canada & Mexico.
     
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  5. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I guess Chicago isn’t going to win it.
     
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  6. Der Stich

    Der Stich Member+

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I don't understand why hosting games would cost the city money. We have a beautiful lakefront stadium (that is guaranteed to sell out) right next to a ginormous convention center and loads and loads of hotels. We are one of the most diverse cities in the world. We have multiple universities with practice fields to be training bases. Wouldn't hosting a game here make everyone involved oodles of cash? What am I missing?
     
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  7. lethargytartare

    lethargytartare Member+

    Oct 2, 2000
    Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    the FIFA required bribes and kickbacks?
     
  8. skinut

    skinut Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2000
    Castle Pines, CO (or often elsewhere on earth)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only possible winner. So much for the Chicago Way.
     
  9. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    One would imagine those champagne-and-Davos globalist elites would have loved to have the World Cup in town, right?
     
  10. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Yeah, this coming at the 11th hour after the Morocco ransom note was made public speaks volumes.

    Probably a good sign for USA 2026 generally, if you're looking for a silver lining.
     
  11. Martininho

    Martininho Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tell me more?
     
  12. Der Stich

    Der Stich Member+

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
  13. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    The press leak that Morocco was leading the bidding was not subtle.

    *Extremely Tom Cruise voice* SHOW ME THE MONAAAAAAY
     
  14. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Essentially, for the last go around, FIFA/Organizing committing were requiring the City to pony up about $10,000,000 in advance of the bid.
    I suspect that it was something like that again.

    “FIFA could not provide a basic level of certainty on some major unknowns that put our city and taxpayers at risk,” the mayor’s office said in a statement.

    “The uncertainty for taxpayers, coupled with FIFA’s inflexibility and unwillingness to negotiate, were clear indications that further pursuit of the bid wasn’t in Chicago’s best interests.”

    Essentially, "We don't want to pony up the money. FIFA won't let us NOT pony up the money. So, screw all of the soccer fans who might want to come to Chicago."

    Also, Soldier Field was the SMALLEST stadium being considered last time around, and was being dropped from consideration.

    And this!
     
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  15. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    I'm of two minds about that. On the one hand it is ludicrous that the largest market in the NFL (when you consider NY and LA split in half) has the smallest (permanent) stadium. It just insulates the Bears from any ticket demand issues no matter how poorly the McCaskeys run the team, and makes the ticket prices astronomical.

    On the other hand, SF is a wonderful soccer venue, not a bad seat in the house, and it would be a shame to have a US World Cup not feature it as a venue and Chicago as a city.

    FIFA is going to find a way to kill its golden goose, which is quite miraculous really.
     
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  16. Martininho

    Martininho Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This was what I was thinking. Multi-million dollar upgrades, fcuking up traffic and security (adding more $$$ to the cost) so that FIFA bozos get limo'd from the airport via empty roads, etc., for what? A couple of group stage matches? Maybe a round of 16?

    Remember, Chi didn't get beyond that in '94, when the city stood out as a far more "sure bet" among a limited pool of cities than now. Putting a WC match in Nashville in '94? Dodgy. Today, likely a no-brainer sellout (although a Saudi Arabia v Russia might still not draw)..
     
  17. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vancouver backed out too. LA is up in the air.
     
  18. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now a host of cities are dropping out

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  19. lethargytartare

    lethargytartare Member+

    Oct 2, 2000
    Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    FIFA sucks
     
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  20. Martininho

    Martininho Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some examples follow:
    https://www1.villanova.edu/villanov...ary/mslj_blog/journal_archives/2014/0728.html
     
  21. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    I nominate FIFA for Moderator!
     
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  22. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    They are responsible for the EPL.
     
  23. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  24. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am glad they passed just look at the demands.

    theBreaker
    has obtained a copy of FIFA’s requirements for governments bidding for 2026. The Swiss-based organization, still reeling from the FBI’s 2015 crackdown on FIFA’s massive bribery and kickbacks, requires host governments agree to grant it huge tax breaks for an entire decade and allow it to import and export unlimited amounts of foreign currency. FIFA also requires host taxpayers pick up the full bill for safety and security and assume liability should there be any security incident of any size…

    For its workforce, FIFA wants a visa-free environment where work permits are issued “unconditionally and without any restriction or discrimination of any kind.”

    “It is also requested to grant exemptions from labour law and other legislation for companies and personnel directly involved with the competition, provided that these exemptions do not undermine or compromise the government’s commitment to respecting, protecting and fulfilling human rights.”

    http://www.fieldofschemes.com/2018/...-than-grant-fifa-a-decade-long-tax-exemption/
     
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  25. lethargytartare

    lethargytartare Member+

    Oct 2, 2000
    Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    in other words, FIFA's reaction to getting caught on the grift is to baldly state the grift in the contract terms and pretend that makes it okay.

    are there any hurling clubs around Chicago? maybe I'll just give up on soccer.
     

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