NFHS changes 2017-18

Might have something to do with the Chair of the Rules committee being an SRA now.

 

I proposed some of these changes. I have no idea how much discussion was required, since I'm no longer on the committee. The challenge usually is explaining the reasons for the changes to the state administrators on the committee, who have little knowledge of the game.

 

Interesting that they didn't pick up the softening of DOGSO in the PA. I would have thought NFHS would have been all over that.

 

I don't. Remember NFHS used to say it was a red regardless of the goal was scored or not.

 

I'll be happy when the day comes where they just adopt the IFAB LoTG and just make there own "rules of competition"

 

Well yeah, there was that.

 

Good times. I nearly gave my assignor a heart attack when I pointed that out to him.

 

I await that day as well. Then we can argue about the passback properly for high school as well.

 

Sounds good to me. Anything that brings the different organizations close rot compliance with one another is good. It's a pain in the ass during the fall when I am reefing high school, college, and youth, and have to remember 3 different sets of rules/laws.

 

I have four different sets of rules for track & field and do meets under all four. (the equivalent of FIFA has a different rule book than the equivalent of USSF.) I've instigated some changes to the NFHS rules that brought them closer to the IFAB Laws of the Game. But NFHS is never going to be just Laws of the Game. Washington (state of, not imperial headquarters on the Potomac) says that they use Laws of the Game, but then it's "except for......" that walks their games most of the way back to NFHS (e.g. sub opportunities). The NFHS philosophy is that these are high school rules that happen to be for the sport of soccer, which is just one of the NFHS sports for which they sell rule books.

 

I think I found the issue right there. Follow the money!

 

Not surprised.

 

Of the differences this one should actually be adopted by USSF in unlimited sub matches. It to me is counter productive to sub twice when - IF - both teams are up and ready to sub both should be able to. I am OK not doing corners but when both are ready, lets get them both on.

 

Most of our unlimited sub leagues mirror the NFHS rules in this regard. I'm ok with it.

I'd also be ok with saying in any league that says it's not rec you have limited subs. Otherwise it's rec. I'm a hard ass though and I'm tired of watered down competitive leagues that charge and arm and a leg for glorified rec.

 

Most high level competitive leagues are limited around here, Rec and select are still unlimited but restrict to team in possession on throw ins which is what I was referring to (Georgia ROC).

I agree with you WHOLE HEARTEDLY! We have at least three tiers of "competitive" with normal select having up to 5 tiers - most are money grabs. Athena and Classic past top level is pretty much rec when you factor out ECNL and DA as well as RPL play. Honestly past the top 3-4 teams in each top select (Classic I or Athena A) level you are at best glorified rec. and I am baffled at paying select fees for 3rd or 4th tier but as long as parents are lining up begging someone to take their money, I can't blame clubs for taking it.

Well - I could blame the clubs as they are somewhat dishonest in not stating outright anything past Athena A and Classic I (at best) is what it is - they still tout it as opportunity for their Mia/Messi to make it at least to college scholarship land and that just isn't so.

 

I'm surprised that that there are USSF affiliated youth leagues that still restrict substitutions more than the Laws of the Game. We got rid of all of that stuff in our state more than 25 years ago. Any dead ball with the referee's permission/acknowledgement.

 

So they can sub an unlimited number and re enter at any stoppage. If so do you add 15 min to each half?!

 

I'm echoing fairplay here but it's to prevent teams that have a one goal lead late from just continuously playing the ball out and calling for a sub. Adding gobs of time to the match often isn't practical to get the game in.

 

Yeah - I am only for it it BOTH are up and ready and not for doing so on any stoppage - just the ones already OK (throw in, goal kick, kick off, injury, YC, RC)

 

Disney tournaments are usually Fifa sub opportunities.

 

Joke's on the Fed, I've been using radios for years.

 

Those "glorified rec" bottom tier travel leagues aren't total evil - they do serve the kids (like mine) that are not super athletes that just want to play lots of soccer (and around these parts continue to train in the winter months indoors). As a parent I happily doled out those fees for many years in an effort to prevent my kids form being shaped like their parents.

 

No. Doesn't take that long. I know you were exaggerating to make a point, but 15 minutes would be, roughly, 30 subs per half, or one per minute. I haven't seen any coaches that even have that many opportunities to sub, much less try to make that many. And, in most games, it doesn't matter anyway. 6-0 and the winning team wants to sub late in the game? So what? It's so easy to calmly tell a losing coach that's complaining about the other guy subbing in a close game, "We're adding for it." I've never had a coach able to respond to that.

It's to the point that we don't often have problems even in our largest men's league where the league rule is zero time added, period, even for a major injury. All ya gotta do is one quick card for delaying the restart and people seem to get the message for the rest of the year, maybe longer. And, besides, especially in the adult leagues, if you're going to try to get an advantage by subbing a lot when you're ahead, you have to have a sub to come in! I always snicker when a player yells "sub!" towards his team's bench and nobody on the bench will make eye contact with him.

 

Or there isn't anyone there to make eye contact, especially later in the season when 10 MAYBE 11 show up.