PBP: News/PBP: CONCACAF U-17 WCQ 10/30 - 11/09 Jamaica

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by Gilmoy, Sep 26, 2013.

  1. Gilmoy

    Gilmoy Member+

    Jun 14, 2005
    Pullman, Washington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FIFA U-17 WWC is bi-annual, every even year.

    The 2012 WWC-17 in Azerbaijan ran Sep 22 - Oct 13, won by France. CONCACAF WCQs were held May 03-12, so about 4 months + 1 week prior.

    The 2014 WWC-17 is in Costa Rica, shifted to the spring: Mar 15 - Apr 05. Costa Rica qualifies automatically into 1 of 3 CONCACAF slots.

    Subtracting the same 4 months + 1 week, we get CONCACAF WCQs this fall, Oct 30 - Nov 09, in Jamaica.

    Assuming 2 groups of 4 as in the last cycle:
    Xa-Xb, Xc-Xd - 10/30 Wed (where X in { A, B })
    Xa-Xc, Xb-Xd - 11/01 Fri
    Xa-Xd, Xb-Xc - 11/03 Sun

    A1-B2, A2-B1 - 11/06 Wed (semifinal winners qualify)
    Championship - 11/09 Sat

    USA has announced its lineup, with 1 roster spot held open for a 2nd GK to unhobble :p
     
  2. Gilmoy

    Gilmoy Member+

    Jun 14, 2005
    Pullman, Washington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    WCQs and (# slots) from the other confeds, sorted by dates, with thread links:

    (3) CONMEBOL - Sep 12 - 29, nearly done. Preliminary 2 groups of 5, top 2 advanced. Final group of 4, loser stays home. After 2 of 3 rounds, Venezuela and Paraguay clinch, and it's Chile-Colombia on Sep 29 for the last spot.
    (3) AFC - Sep 26 - Oct 06, underway now! (morning our time?)
    (1) OFC - Oct 12-26.
    (3) CAF - Nov {1-3} and {22-24} home-and-away.
    (3) UEFA - Nov 26 - Dec 08. Thread contains some U-19 chatter ...
     
  3. Gilmoy

    Gilmoy Member+

    Jun 14, 2005
    Pullman, Washington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (2) CONCACAF - 6 of 8 CONCACAF WCQ teams are settled. The last 2 will be decided tomorrow.

    Jamaica (WCQ host)
    USA, Canada, Mexico (bye)
    El Salvador, Guatemala (Central America, May - Jun 2013)

    In progress (Caribbean Football Union, final group, semifinal winners - Fri Sep 27)
    Haiti-Bermuda
    Puerto Rico-Trinidad & Tobago
     
  4. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Canada isnt going to be there r they? They r hosting the U20 WWC.
     
  5. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is for the U-17 WC. Canada does have to qualify for this one.
     
  6. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nevermind
     
  7. WPS_Movement

    WPS_Movement Member+

    Apr 9, 2008
    I'm going to predict the 16 teams that will Qualify.

    HOST: Costa Rica
    CONCACAF: USA, Canada
    CONMEBOL: Colombia, Venezuela, Paraguay
    UEFA: Germany, France, Norway
    CAF: Nigeria, South Africa, Ghana
    AFC: China, Japan, North Korea
    OFC: New Zealand

    Teams from U-17 WWC (2012) who won't Qualify: Mexico, Brazil, Uruguay, Azerbaijan, Gambia
    Teams Qualifying who didn't Qualify in 2012: Costa Rica, Venezuela, Paraguay, Norway, South Africa
     
  8. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Id maybe offer Australia instead of China in AFC
     
  9. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Australia didn't qualify.
     
  10. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    They lost to China...when was that...today?
     
  11. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was. Australia lost 2-0.
     
  12. Gilmoy

    Gilmoy Member+

    Jun 14, 2005
    Pullman, Washington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (3) CONMEBOL - Sep 12 - 29. Venezuela, Colombia, Paraguay.

    (3) AFC - Sep 26 - Oct 06. 4 groups of 3, winner (only) advanced.
    Semis (Thu 10/03) are China-DPR Korea, Thailand-Japan.
    Semi winners + 3rd place (Sun 10/06) qualify.
    Thailand knocked out South Korea on GD ...

    (2+1) CONCACAF - Oct 30 - Nov 09. The 8 participants are:
    Jamaica (host), Canada, Mexico, USA
    El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Trinidad & Tobago
     
  13. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Too bad. I thought if the Mini Matildas got out of their group they had a decent shot at third.
     
  14. WPS_Movement

    WPS_Movement Member+

    Apr 9, 2008
    Yeah I was rooting for Australia too.
    They would have been more interesting in this tournament than China.
     
  15. Gilmoy

    Gilmoy Member+

    Jun 14, 2005
    Pullman, Washington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (3) AFC - Sep 26 - Oct 06. Semis today (10/03): China 1-3 DPRK, Thailand 0-6 Japan :eek:
    Sun 10/06: 3rd place China-Thailand for the last slot, DPRK-Japan for the AFC title.
     
  16. Gilmoy

    Gilmoy Member+

    Jun 14, 2005
    Pullman, Washington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (3) AFC - Sep 26 - Oct 06. Japan, DPR (North) Korea, China.
    Sun 10/06: China 2+4 - 2+2 Thailand, after China's 90+4' equalizer(!), for 3rd and the last ticket.
    DPRK 1+5 - 1+6 Japan, who repeats as champion on a PK miss.
    Since this is actually Asia's U-16 championship, they do not play ET, but PK AER.
     
  17. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The US ended up in Group B:

    2013 CONCACAF U-17 Women’s Championship

    Group B Schedule

    Date
    Match Kickoff (ET) Venue

    Oct. 31
    USA vs. T&T 7 p.m. Catherine Hall Stadium; Montego Bay, Jamaica

    Nov. 2
    USA vs. Guatemala 7 p.m. Catherine Hall Stadium; Montego Bay, Jamaica

    Nov. 4
    USA vs. Canada 6 p.m. Catherine Hall Stadium; Montego Bay, Jamaica

    Jamaica, Mexico, Haiti and El Salvador in Group A are in Group A.
     
  18. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really? The US and Canada in the same group? Ugh.
     
  19. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering the next round is A1-B2/B1-A2 with the winners going to the WC, I would rather take the chance of getting a Mexico instead of Canada in the deciding game.
     
  20. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. The assignments appear to be the best way to assure the US and Canada don't meet in the next round.
     
  21. Gilmoy

    Gilmoy Member+

    Jun 14, 2005
    Pullman, Washington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I forgot that with 2 groups, they can stagger the group matches on alternating days.
    So Group A plays { 30; 01; 03 } and Group B plays { 31; 02; 04 }.
    Then they have to sync up for the semi cross-overs on 11/07.
    So A1/A2 have an extra day of rest (4 vs 3), which is probably not a big deal.

    If it were 3 days vs 2 days, it'd be a really big deal. So they insert an extra day?

    Still, it means the A1-seed is fractionally more desirable than B1.
    Hence, it goes to host Jamaica, and USA is B1.
    Both Jamaica and USA get all the evening kickoffs in prime-time :thumbsup:
     
  22. WPS_Movement

    WPS_Movement Member+

    Apr 9, 2008
    It looks like "Fox Soccer Plus" will be broadcasting the U.S. matches for this tournament.
     
  23. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I hate the new FOX Sports treatment of soccer more than I thought I possibly could.
     
  24. WPS_Movement

    WPS_Movement Member+

    Apr 9, 2008
    why's that?
     
  25. WPS_Movement

    WPS_Movement Member+

    Apr 9, 2008
    Fox Soccer Plus is televising seven of the matches in this tournament.
    All three USA group matches, both Semifinal matches, the 3rd place match, and the Final.
    The 3rd place match doesn't really mean anything, since the 3rd and 4th place teams won't qualify.
     

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