NEW YORK: ARGENTINA v BRAZIL June 9th!!!

I read this last night but couldn't post it.

I'm so freaking going to this match.

 

Am going.

 

Make sure you outsing them whatever you do COSMOS......

 

I don't disagree. I would not think it an exaggeration for NJ/NY authorities to be briefed on what this rivalry means. It's Boston Red Sox vs. New York Yankees a million times over.

EDIT: June 9 is a Saturday. Tailgating, beer, drunk Argentines and drunk Brazilians... oh oh.

Security will need to be strong. Many Brazilians live in the area and will travel from Boston and Philadelphia for this. The yellow jerseys will abound.

 

That's precisely my point Cosmos. These Americans are clueless. I'm not criticizing them, but by virtue of being what they are - gringos - they don't know the enormity of a Brazil vs Argentina.

When our NTs met in 2006, in England, I would imagine minor skirmishes happened at the most. The Brits have decades of experience with hooligans, and their police and judicial systems get the job done (as happens in America).

But American sports really don't deal with the fan violence England, Brazil, and Argentina have had to live with due to soccer. They don't have the concept of torcidas organizadas or barra bravas. Now, of course, it's not like full-scale riots break out in every South American NT match when they happen back at home. But the police there are experienced and the folks running these games know how to do things.

A solution would be to ban alcohol that day - but the stadium would lose too much money. Fans WILL bring liquor and tailgate and drink. Then what?

When I watched Argentina vs USA in 2008, I walked around the parking lot w/ my Brazil jersey (not far from my car and group). And of course, being that it was in the US, people knew better than to act stupid. In the stands, I was provoked, and I verbally retaliated. Again, the fact that there are cameras and cops stopped both the Argentines around me and me from anything more drastic.

So technically, the Meadowlands has the tools to keep the peace - but they will need to separate ticket rows/sections according to teams. And police officers WILL be needed in large numbers. Because on that day, even if 99% of the Argentines and Brazilians go there to enjoy the game and to mind their own business, there WILL be trash talk as fans walk past each other to the restroom and there WILL always be that one jackass who can't behave. As you know, I met some who happened to be Argentines that day. What if this time 2 or 3 Argentine youths are surrounded by Brazilians and trash talk escalates? And multiply this all over the stands?

Having said this - I WILL GO. But I will be doubly sure my ticket is in an all-Brazilian section.

 

In the US, I have attended a couple of USA - Mexico matches, and Peru - Ecuador a few years back (these two countries went to war in the 90s), and hardly any skirmishes happened. Nothing major for sure, so don't see why this concern over the match.

 

Let's hope I'm wrong. But fans need to be separated. Barring Korea vs. Japan, England vs Germany, and Argentina vs England, this is the biggest rivalry ever.

 

Always the East Coast. I mean, yeah I have gone to the games when we faced Honduras and Mexico in LA/San Diego, but the games are always in the East Coast. I'd give anything to watch a game in California (even on the West Coast) if we play a team that is not Mexico or Central American teams. Brazil/Argentina will sellout anywhere.

Yeah, I am bitter.

 

Unless you enjoy cohabiting with Mexican and Salvadorean gangs, why would you live in California? NYC is the place to be, LOL

 

LOL...I think with the Nets and Devils coming to Brooklyn, it should help with the hellish parking lot traffic. The road rage I'll vent to fans of mine and opposing teams alike

 

Fixed your post.

 

Dominican gangs? What do they do, sell clandestine bachata CD's in the bodegas?

 

I seriously doubt anything will happen... i'm surprised people think something will

There was a Superclasico in Miami in 2002... now THAT would be what i want a repeat of.

River vs. Boca in New York or Miami would be just so awesome

 

This.

Most Argentines and Brasilians who have enough money to move to the US aren't going to fight over football.

Besides, ASF, I'd be worried about the Barras fighting each other than actually fighting brasilians.

In the last 2 world cups, its been Boca and Independiente's Barras who have thrown down, I don't think they went after other country's fans in south africa, but a boca fan died and we know the story of how many barras weren't even allowed into south africa, like the head of Central's barra whose name escapes.

And of course River's barra is a mess. They had a shoot out over jonas brothers tickets.

I personally would love to see all the barras go to a field like at the end of Green Street Hooligans and just fight to the death. Those people are just scum

Y que tengamos un Superclasico sin violencia ASF este verano. Prospero año para vos y tu familia

 

What your talking about is no different that what happens at bars and clubs on fridays or an nfl game

Barras bring guns, knives, drugs, and they are people without souls... they truly care about nothing but money and causing chaos.

Just look at South Africa 2010. A Boca barra died when they fought Independiente.

Or Germany 2006 when all shit hit the fan.

 

What happened in 06, don't remember anything notorious except for the end-game fight between the players against Germany.

 

Is this in Jersey at Giants stadium or in Jersey at the Red Bull Stadium? Going to Giants stadium is the biggest pain in the ass ever for footy matches. The traffic is impossible in and out of the city. What should be a 30 minute bus ride turns into 3 hours. At least to the Red Bulls stadium you can take the train.