Rosemont is like having 49% of the team sold. Its...just...not...there. At least its on the tippy end of the el.
That’s right. I hope the inside source is wrong about Rosemont (@pena pirata thanks for sharing by the way). https://www.chicagotribune.com/busi...ds-revised-plans-ryan-ori-20181126-story.html If Rosemont is true, nimrod will breathe a huge sigh of relief as he will be able to embark unfettered on year 4 of his 3 year process.
I’d settle for anything inside he city limits and next to the El. At least this would check one of those boxes? With that said, you don’t need to be a genius to know that without an oversized marketing budget this team will be a total unknown in the city if they play in Rosemont.
Yeah, I feel like the same level of marketing the Fire has had (which, aside from a year or so, has been zero) in Bridgeview would go a little further in Rosemont, but I see quite a few ads for the Chicago Wolves, and they're generally not really packing the place full of fans, either. A stadium in Rosemont would be okay for a USL team, but it'd be disappointing as hell to anyone hoping for the city to host either a second MLS team (longshot) or the Fire (even if it we some sort of rebranded Fire), since it wouldn't be too much of an improvement (unless it located was right off of the Rosemont Blue Line, which isn't going to happen)
Is there any space left to put a stadium in Rosemont? The traffic would be a nightmare. I know Rosemont wants to be an entertainment mecca, but between the mall, theater, Allstate Arena, casino, whatever the baseball/softball stadium is called, and all of the restaurants that are already there, how are they going to manage the volume of cars going through there?
The issue is that the people making the decisions are trying to get the numbers to work for the Lincoln Yards project. From what I heard is that the Cubs still have a good relationship with Rosemont so don't be surprised if the USL team ends up there permanently.
i would love the team to be in rosemont, only because it would be a lot easier for me personally. i don't want to actually see it, but if it were to happen, i would be happy for myself. and if the team were to be called the rosemont horizions, i'd piss myself with joy.
If the team moved, it'd be nice if they'd move somewhere I didn't have to drive to. I don't even care if the commute takes longer, which it almost certainly would. Time drinking on the train only counts for half of time sitting, sober, in traffic in the car.
I still have no idea what the stadium and Amazon had to do with one another. People always spoke as if the two were directly related but Ive never seen how the two benefitted from one another and the only real correlation seems to be that they were announced at the same time.
I agree, but you'd never know it from the way people have talked about it, despite the fact that such a connection never actually made sense. That team was created as a side piece to lure in amazons HQ. Bullshit team— william vega (@wildonion18) August 12, 2018
btw, FWIW... Next question on Chicago and the USL team that may go into downtown: Garber says that there have been no discussion about a deal to get the Fire downtown. Garber isn't as optimistic the USL downtown stadium will get done. #MLS— Miki Turner (@turneresq) December 7, 2018
As soon as you people write a check the fire can start building a downtown stadium. The reason they went to Bridgeview was because Chicago wasn't willing to give them a dime to build it, maybe land but not the new stadium and that has not changed. If a 20,000 seat stadium is built at Lincoln yards it wouldn't be big enough to make it worth while financially plus they would have to pay off Bridgeview.
Honestly though, Bridgeview was built at a time when Phil Anschutz still owned the team, and while he was a rich, powerful guy, he never had any real clout in the city. Ricketts is different. If someone owned the team who was close with Daley's people a decade and a half ago, they'd have built a stadium in the South Loop and they'd have found a way to bulldoze a school, and orphanage, and a low-income housing development to build it, paid for with TIF cash. Still, I do agree that the current Lincoln Yards stadium plan doesn't entirely make sense without some sort of long game that Sterling Bay has, and they haven't shown their cards if they have any.
Blocking a USL team from getting a foothold in the minds of the people in the city is the concern. That will cost far more than virtually any price to get out of Bridgeview.
As soon as Hauptman and Manseuto write checks, you mean. We know the first won't happen and the second has been completely silent. Tend to agree with the rest.
This is true, but they would not even have to do that. There is a crapload of empty land directly across the Dan Ryan from Comisky Park (or whateverthefvck they call it now). They already bulldozed the space from Robert Taylor Homes, so the low-income housing and schools are already gone. Let's see here (this also applies to the crap that the Amazon debacle and any other industrial failure): Available land? Within the City? Yes Access to public transportation? Red line a few blocks away. Green line a couple of blocks away. Access to highways? On the Dan Ryan (90-94, merging into I-57 and I-55). Access to decent local roads? Michigan, State and Indiana are all multilane. Add to that, a ready work force and a chance to actually make a difference on the south side (this applies more to industry than a soccer stadium). Yep, I called the Lincoln Yards soccer stadium a pipe dream and I still stick to that until those cards are shown.
You wouldn't even have to go that far south. Ignoring the political/displacement issues the Ickes homes site next to National Teachers Academy would have been the perfect "Daley" project.