New stadium in the works??

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  1. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty well.
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  2. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States

    Nationwide already controls a vast majority of Franklinton. Recent news article had map of their holdings and it is vast. So something will happen there, whenever Brian Ellis and his team decide they want to do something. If they want a stadium to be part of it, bank on it happening (see huntington park). If they don't then it won't. Same goes for their land behind Huntington Park where casino was to go. If NW wants a stadium there, it will happen. Those are APs best case scenarios. He will need NW clout to get something done downtown.
     
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  3. Jaybir

    Jaybir Member+

    Feb 24, 2014
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    Columbus Crew
    The Maphre naming rights be a nice fit for Nationwide.
     
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  4. Dan Milton

    Dan Milton Member

    Nov 25, 1998
    A better roster,a better performing team that is fun and exciting to watch is the key to better Attendance.
     
  5. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But we were much worse this year and much better attendance.
     
  6. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    You are picking up that they are both talking about the benefits of a new stadium i.e. avoiding these challenges. They are not saying, why don't we do this at Mapfre. They are saying, hey we won't have to deal with this bullshit in a new stadium because we don't share land with the fairgrounds anymore.

    The proper @kgilbert78 patented, you aren't considering this-argument-here response should be, are we trading schedule/shared location conflict with the fairgrounds for shared location schedule conflicts with CBJ, Clippers, Red White and Boom, etc.
     
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  7. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
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    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    See, the thing about clippers, RWB and Jackets is that none of them last a whole month and give us no options. Or, like the fair, over a week with no options. We can slot in a game or a two a week and not cause a fuss.

    Eboe
     
  8. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Do either typically play same night/time as us? If we have CBJ traffic 3/4 nights in a month is there a difference?

    Lack of the smell of horse feces is of course assumed, but not a given.
     
  9. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was responding to the folks complaining about the current situation and changes that could be made at the current site. Of course a new stadium away from the Fairgrounds ameliorates the situation.

    Conflicts with a new stadium?? Depends where you put a new stadium. If it were to go in Franklinton, for example, there would not be as much conflict....

    We're also talking about different kinds of conflicts. With the Fair and Quarter Horse (especially the latter), there is NO extra parking available for Crew games. The trailers for the Quarter Horse Congress take up a lot of space. I've not noticed a parking problem when there are both Clippers and Jackets on the same day (or a concert at whatever they are calling the facility next to Huntington Park). There's a lot of parking on nearby streets. All three (four)? We'd have to see. But you have to have a lot of parking in the area anyway for working folks, and they have added quite a bit of parking recently in the new garages between Nationwide and Huntington Park.

    Most cities manage--heck Cleveland had both the Series and Cavs games at the same time in adjacent facilities.

    Of course, I always try to park on the street for free for Jackets/Clippers games. Did that most of the Crew season too.
     
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  10. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's never bothered me much--of course my sister used to live in PA Dutch country, so I got used to it. But herbivores don't smell that bad. If you got to the zoo, it's always the fish eaters that stink the worst.
     
  11. Tobias C

    Tobias C Member+

    Columbus Crew
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    Mar 6, 2014
    Toledo, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Question: I've seen the Brewery District mentioned as a possible location.....would 371 Maier Place be a realistic location? The big warehouse building immediately adjacent to Audubon Park. The building and the land it's on that isn't within the boundaries of the metropark looks big enough to me. Maier Place would be fine as a service drive for one side of the stadium with maybe pedestrian bridges over the train tracks over to Short St?

    Could this be feasible if Precourt was able to buy that building/property? That warehouse is almost 70 years old and it looks like the most relevant thing in it is crossfit gym. I've never actually been down there (im not from Columbus, just surveying it from Google maps).
     
  12. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
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    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The one challenge might be access and parking. Parking is already bad in the Brewery district. The park is an important flyway for migrating birds. I doubt the city would want a stadium there--and the park is not that easy to get to.
     
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  13. DAK77

    DAK77 Member+

    Nov 10, 2008
    Merion Village, OH
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, the biggest difference between Arena District and Brewery District is the amount of parking garages somewhat close by. The Brewery District use to be a pain to find parking when it was the happening area back in the late 90s. I couldn't imagine it with 20k people looking for parking.
     
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  14. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Fancy Title Here

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I know what you mean, and it's always best to assume the worst/most in these situations, but 20k people doesn't translate into 20k cars.

    If there's 20k for a typical summer Crew game, it's probably more like 14k cars.

    Now, suppose the stadium is in the Brewery District. Ride sharing would probably have similar numbers, but you're a lot closer to bus routes, including the millennial/hipster-friendly CBUS. A lot of people may park elsewhere near that route for some pregame libations and then not drive to the game.

    If someone can park near a bar for $5, possibly even free, patronize that establishment and then CBUS/Uber for less than the stadium parking fee, it's an obvious decision.

    You also have suburban families with more than one person per car.

    On a highly-attended Crew game, I'm guesstimating there's probably 14-15k cars in the lot, not counting people who don't count in the attendance figures such as employees and players.
     
  15. DAK77

    DAK77 Member+

    Nov 10, 2008
    Merion Village, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's pretty obvious that anyone would know a family of four are not driving 4 different cars unless they put in a big wheels garage for kids to park.

    No matter if it's 8k or 20k cars the Brewery District could not handle either the way it is currently designed.
     
  16. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
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    Cleveland C. S.
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    United States
    Arena District wouldn't be a major parking issue. It has more parking than Gateway (Indians/Cavs complex) in Cleveland and the Crew could sell out a 25k stadium and still need Clippers and Arena sellouts to equal the Indians/Cavs dual sellout situation here in Cleveland.
     
  17. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
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    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've only seen the Brewery District once (from the inside of the CBUS), but I think eight cars could overwhelm its parking capacity.
     
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  18. Micheluzzo

    Micheluzzo Member

    Jun 8, 2011
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    It doesn't matter; The day they decided to move to the suburbs is the day they decided to have to drive to anything that is worth experiencing.
     
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  19. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States

    https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9689682,-83.0134101,730m/data=!3m1!1e3

    After some careful consideration, I have concluded that this is the best location in the city to put a new stadium (540 West Nationwide Blvd.). Drove over there yesterday out of curiosity. I can can imagine a nice little palace tucked in on that dead end street. Rather than it being centered on the property, I envision the gates being right on the street (very similar to Huntington Park). All the amenities everyone clamors for are within walking distance. I can envision that end of the street being closed on game days with activities that are currently held on Plaza being happening right out in the street. Supporters groups would have a direct fan filled route to march to the stadium.

    The one issue that keeps coming to mind however with a location in the city is not availability of parking but rather the Crew's ability to capture revenue from parking. The is a huge revenue stream, that they would likely prefer to capture.

    As I said in an earlier post, if this is going to happen... Nationwide Realty Investors will have to play big part.
     
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  20. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Expect to have to spend money to do something about the railroad tracks. The bridges on Nationwide are low, for one, making it harder to get equipment in for construction as well as things like TV trucks, etc. for games. My guess is those tracks aren't going anywhere, either.
     
  21. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think you need to do anything to the tracks to fit a stadium in there.

    The question is, what's all that on the banks of the Olentangy at the very end of Nationwide? If that's stuff that is abandoned, that could be a very nice spot for some more hotel/restaurant/etc. development. That all seems too easy though.

    I really think the old Vets Memorial would have been ideal, but I realize that ship has sailed.

    You might be able to fit something along Rich St just across the bridge from Bicentenial park. The city would probably actually love that, if it's feasible.
     
  22. jairadballerina

    jairadballerina Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    C-Town
    I park in that gravel lot just West of Huntington Park but before the railroad tracks (kinda looks like an upside down triangle on the map). That can easily be developed into a decent parking structure.

    Also any reason to hang out at the dive bar Betty's is good with me.
     
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  23. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Without capo stands, the stadium will be useless.

    (ducks)
     
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  24. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Betty's would become legendary for sure.
     
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  25. DAK77

    DAK77 Member+

    Nov 10, 2008
    Merion Village, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Betty's use to have (not sure if they still do) Thong Thursday and the bartender was walking around in just her thong.
     

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