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  1. Gilbertsson

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  2. totti fan

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    ROFL

    Watch it again you moron he says: a "weak recommendation" based on "low-quality evidence" that most people don't need to reduce their red and processed meat consumption

    In other words they don't have strong evidence to disprove the harmful effects of red and processed meat on health. And at no point do they say that it's good for you.

    LMFAO. It's hilarious how stupid you are.
     
  3. totti fan

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    Give me an example of a prominent athlete or prominent person who has succeeded with the diet long-term.

    So according to you fat is more nutritious than carbs and proteins.
    And presumably better for you than things like fibre, vitamins, minerals.

    You are a ticking time-bomb if this is how you are living your life.
    Peer reviewed (LMFAO):

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/30/...lity-evidence-controversy-wellness/index.html

    "Why would you make a 'weak' recommendation about eating red and processed meat?" asked Stanford School of Medicine nutrition scientist Christopher Gardner. "I'm completely flabbergasted. I'm also really worried about how dangerous this is."

    "It should be noted that the group does not represent any national or international organization or government," said Jim Mann, who is a professor of medicine and human nutrition at the University of Otago in New Zealand.
    "Guidelines are generally issued by authoritative bodies rather than self-selected groups," said Mann, who is a member of the WHO Nutrition Guidance Expert Advisory Group.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/30/...lity-evidence-controversy-wellness/index.html

    Several groups, one of which includes an author of one of the papers, sent letters to the journal’s editor requesting that publication be postponed for further investigation.

    “It’s the most egregious abuse of data I’ve ever seen,” says Walter Willett, MD, DrPH, a professor of epidemiology and nutrition at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, who was among the signers of the letter. “There are just layers and layers of problems.”

    https://www.pcrm.org/news/blog/journal-advice-eat-cancer-causing-meats-science-or-clickbait

    The True Health Initiative, an organization including more than 500 health experts, asked the Annals to pre-emptively retract publication of these papers, because the conclusions were not supported by their findings.


    Not funded by industry (ROFL):

    The same group previously published a study saying not to limit sugar consumption (funded by Coke, Pepsi and Nestle):

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thesal...-controversial-new-guidelines-lead-to-outrage

    Johnston previously authored a study, also published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, that challenged the quality of the evidence behind the recommendations to limit sugar. That paper, published online in 2016, was funded by the International Life Sciences Institute, a nonprofit group funded by large food and beverage companies that has come under scrutiny for its role in shaping food policy.

    And they've also done studies promoting probiotics for the probiotic industry:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3105609/

    They're basically go to guys if you want a study done to support your product.
    LMFAO.

    Funding from beef industry:

    https://today.agrilife.org/2019/04/16/texas-am-agrilife-joins-international-nutrirecs-consortium/

    Texas A&M AgriLife has become the fifth and newest member of the NutriRECS international consortium

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_AgriLife_Research

    Texas A&M AgriLife Research specialists in beef cattle

    International beef initiative launched by Texas A&M animal science
    AgriLife Extension grass-fed beef conference May 30-31
     
  4. totti fan

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  5. totti fan

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    ask me a question. I don't understand Spanish and I'm even less inclined to sit through hours of video for the sake of anecdotes.

    You should do so some research on places like Honduras and Haiti, and question their systems. Why focus on countries like Cuba and Venezuela. It makes no sense to compare those countries with Western countries : "Canada, Australia, USA (East Coast; from Maine to Florida, with California, maybe Oregon and the other Washington state (Seattle), New Zealand with maybe 10, 11 EU countries and two non - EU countries. Iceland would be the third one " Or you could focus on the problems of the poorest people in the US where poverty is endemic.
     
  6. La Magica

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    I'll post this for the 3rd time. Maybe 3rd time lucky you can watch and educate yourself. You will also find your answer in there.


    Posting a load of upset fake science pushersand you think you have won a point. You don't understand the basics of nutrition. You're getting played because you wont go back and learn the basics of metabolism and strip away the ideology :speechless:. Go back to level one bro

    Dr. Shawn Baker
    "HOW DARE YOU!! The vegan/plant based crowd is all up in arms because a group of independent researchers prioritized a higher standard of evidence, Randomized Controlled Trials instead of biased, confounded and weak epidemiology studies! The poor whiners are complaining about the GRADE evaluation system, which is well established and internationally recognized as highly rigorous and valid, because it upsets their little applecart! How dare we recognize both financial AND intellectual bias! How dare we ask for rigorous criteria! How dare we call out weak science for what it is! Real valuable studies are just too hard to do they whine! The plant based crowd wants you to accept their highly biased conclusions based on shitty science and not question it! Good on these researchers for having the balls to say the science is no where near compelling-This is why studying a carnivore diet will be so valuable as it removes so many dietary confounders! More to come on this topic soon, but this marks a good day for science"
     
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  7. falvo

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    Ya I’m wondering joe he likes our health care now?
     
  10. Gilbertsson

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    There are no specific questions. Just through superficial observation of these three videos, we can notice several fields:
    - lifestyle
    - standard
    - future perspective

    Those three segments we can compare with other European, American, Oceania states and conclude where is better?

    I think that we already concluded in earlier posts that Haiti should remain as French territory. It would be the same just like in Martinique, New Caledonia, Tahiti...

    The society of Haiti is divided, These four parties are the main ones in the parliament.

    Centre - right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Tèt_Kale_Party
    Centre - right:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_League_for_Haitian_Progress_and_Emancipation
    Centre - left, left - wing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platfòm_Pitit_Desalin
    Centre - left: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanmi_Lavalas

    Honduras has this political landscape:
    Centre - left: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Honduras
    Right - wing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Party_of_Honduras
    Left - wing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Unification_Party
    Centre - right:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_of_Honduras
    Centre - left: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innovation_and_Unity_Party

    Honduras is pretty much leftist country, while Haiti seems divided. At least, if we observe those key political parties which hold the seats in assemblies. Ex - colonial countries usually act as leftists, because their European colonists usually acted as rightists when they conquered them. It makes no sense that Native American communities in North America, Central America and South America act as rightists. Similar is in African countries, Aboriginal people of Australia, New Zealand. They all act against European domination, either UK, France, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands...

    I wonder which political parties rule in countries with higher percent of poverty, in any continent?
     
  11. phat

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    Too many words for him. But stick to Honduras if you want him to engage. We shot him down on Venezuela and Cuba in the past.

    @totti fan crew are a.pollutant :
    1179908480322289664 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  12. La Magica

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    I believe that was a troll. And the Russia comment really stood out.

    But it shows you how docile people have become to just sit there and listen to a crazy talk. I would have been shutting her down and telling her if she thinks there's too many people on the earth, go kill yourself bitch.

    Instead they just sit there probably thinking perhaps she has a point.
     
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    The story behind Greta Thunberg. The posterchild for the campaign to raise taxes worldwide.

     
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    Why didn't Bernie travel to Cuba for the procedure???
     
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    She's a crackpot. Gonna empty some hairpray bottles outside.
     
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  16. phat

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    #16793 phat, Oct 5, 2019
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    Underdeveloped countries with lots of poor people are often leftist or socialist because their leaders can keep control of the country a lot easier.

    In the case of Congo or Africa in general the geopolitical scene is currently heavyly influenced by China. We can discuss it at length if you wish.
     
  17. Falc

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  19. totti fan

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    Bolivia has the highest growth rates in Latin America and it's left-wing.
    China and Vietnam are also two of the fastest growing economies in the world and they are run by self-proclaimed Marxists.

    Haiti and Honduras are poor and divided because the countries have been sold out to foreign corporations after US backed coups against democratically elected governments. People are dying protesting in the streets and yet Western hypocrites focus on extradition treaties in Hong Kong.

    the US is in decline and we all know it:
    [​IMG]
     
  20. totti fan

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    Your uncle waited 9 months after a heart attack?
     
  21. totti fan

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    I'm not not going to watch your boring stupid 45m video. All I want is an answer to a simple question you seem intent on ducking:

    Give me an example of a prominent athlete or prominent person who has succeeded with the diet long-term.

    Shawn "My diet consists exclusively of meat" Baker has the testosterone levels of a 100 year old. This is your go to expert? LMFAO.

    https://nneandersphysiologicalliter...er-than-in-a-group-of-centenarians-a-paradox/
     
  22. La Magica

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    Education to totti fan is boring. He would rather get his "science" from Mr Bobblyhead the animal activist and Vegans Gains, the high school drop out. :laugh:

    Carry on comrade.
     
  23. totti fan

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    Abstract: This study compared capitalist and socialist countries in measures of the physical quality of life (PQL), taking into account the level of economic development.

    The World Bank was the principal source of statistical data for 123 countries (97 per cent of the world's population). PQL variables included:
    1) indicators of health, health services, and nutrition (infant mortality rate, child death rate, life expectancy, population per physician, population per nursing person, and daily per capita calorie supply);
    2) measures of education (adult literacy rate, enrollment in secondary education, and enrollment in higher education); and
    3) a composite PQL index. Capitalist countries fell across the entire range of economic development (measured by gross national product per capita), while the socialist countries appeared at the low-income, lower-middle- income, and upper-middle-income levels.

    All PQL measures improved as economic development increased. In 28 of 30 comparisons between countries at similar levels of economic development, socialist countries showed more favorable PQL outcomes.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1646771/pdf/amjph00269-0055.pdf
     

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