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  1. totti fan

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    Jun 24, 2010
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    Give me examples, and teachers are irrelevant to this discussion.
     
  2. Midfield General

    Jun 14, 2011
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    Lulz!
     
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  3. Falc

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    Jul 29, 2006
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    Damn, I must have hit a nerve. A little judgmental today?
     
  4. totti fan

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    Jun 24, 2010
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    Just felt the need to point out how far off the mark you are in relation to my background.

    You're a horrible person Falc but I still wish you all the very best.
     
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  5. totti fan

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    Biden is actually dumber and more racist than Trump.
     
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  6. Falc

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    Or perhaps next time you can respond to me with your experience on the issue instead of telling me that I am a load of bullshit. You should be a little more careful when dealing with a horrible person. Ma va fanculo.
     
  7. falvo

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    Biden is senile.
     
  8. Rosay

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    wait Totti fan has kids? jeeeeeeezzz
     
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  9. phat

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    Feb 13, 2006
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    I wish you had the slightest of reading comprehension.
     
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  10. totti fan

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    Only a testa di cazzo like you thinks it's necessary to provide a resume b4 you write a post
     
  11. totti fan

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    Jun 24, 2010
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    His dentures fell out during the debate. Go 'Murica!
     
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  12. totti fan

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    When are you getting married?
     
  13. Deleted User x

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    Mar 21, 2006
    Says the man who sympathizes with Stalin and Mao.
     
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  14. Deleted User x

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    Teachers are not irrelevant to this as they are part of the Catholic school board and have to follow the script.
     
  15. phat

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    Generations of liberal teachers are to blame for the neo-liberal mess.
     
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  16. Rosay

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    eventually buddy
     
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  17. totti fan

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    Jun 24, 2010
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    You're misinformed.
     
  18. totti fan

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    Any danger you can answer a straight question
     
  19. totti fan

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    #16519 totti fan, Sep 14, 2019
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    Your brain should be cryogenically frozen so that when they invent time travel you can be sent back to medieval times where you belong.
     
  20. Gilbertsson

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    Switzerland
    #16520 Gilbertsson, Sep 14, 2019
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    Roman Catholic school usually can't make your nature go wrong. I also went in that school, but I was already shaped in my domestic, household life, parents, family in general. Sincerely, I really doubt that anyone wants to see wars in his own country, or any priest. In Roman Catholic school they don't create hatred against other groups. I never heard that in my life there. The classes, lectures often had boring style of lecturing, a lot of information, a lot of their reading, their Power Point presentations had 50, 60 slides, which is too much for one normal presentation.
    I never heard the situation, where I need to hate someone and present this in one oral exam, so that I get better grade. Major problem in such schools is that they provide too many literature. We had obligatory literature, plus literature made by choice. But it was not our choice, it was their choice. Of course, the accent was on Roman Catholic learning, just like other denominations use their own learning.
    The school environment was excellent, large and luxurious spaces, small groups of us in classrooms. When I see how things look in public schools, which are crowded, I consider myself lucky to be in spaces, just like at home.
    No one yelled at me there, sometimes they were sarcastic during exams in sense: "You don't like that book, so you rather skipped it?"
    As you can see, I still have my own critical opinion about everything. Catholic school can't provide you entire education, but it provides a lot of basic surface, where you can upgrade and investigate other fields of science, life.
    Of course, comfortable learning can also have disadvantages. You never notice those terrible things in your life, so you don't become prepared if something bad arrives, for example at working place. But this is a syndrome of glass bell when people are not so educated in battle for existence, ordinary needs.
    I am worried about the pollution and climate change. I don't like to see that major worlds forests vanish, animal species. For example, I went sad because one parrot got extinct recently. Human beings are fault for majority of things that happen in ecological system. Oceans are full of plastics, fish species eat that plastic, I travel often, I notice negative impacts of human beings. In Australia, there is a problem with coral reef, polar bears lose their own spaces of ice, whales, dolphins, sharks die because of too many cruisers, boats, yachts. A lot of animals in Australia die because of fires, large trucks on the roads: kangaroo, koalas, they try to protect penguins at Philip Island. It's silly for me to see kangaroo fur in souvenir shop with that green triangle label: Australian Made. I would rather see kangaroo in nature.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/09/americas/rio-spix-blue-macaw-extinct-brazil/index.html

    I doubt that anyone supports that animal species extinct completely, why do we need to see them just in natural science museums, why not in wildlife?
     
  21. Gilbertsson

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    #16521 Gilbertsson, Sep 14, 2019
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    Catholic Church tries to adapt in every political situation, system. For their aims, they need people who are ready to fight and conquer new soils, for example Crusade wars. In contemporary times, they act as missionaries around the world and try to attract new members, all races and ethnic groups. For sure, they don't recognise the borders, they try to be universal, global and present. They probably want to convert anyone. Even if someone belongs to other religion, they would like to see him in Roman Catholic atmosphere. As we can all see, they like to be present in India, China, among large societies and groups. I notice a that they like to be just like Roman Empire, territory that Alexander The Great conquered, which Marco Polo visited. There are two Roman Catholic churches in China. One is connected with Vatican, other isn't.

    Old Catholic Church wanted to be more ethnic and connected with state, without major ties with Vatican, but they mostly failed in that goal.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Catholic_Church

    Greek Catholic Church is basically one compromise, they can keep the Orthodox Christian customs, but they need to respect Pope in Vatican. This happened mostly with Ukranian part which was in Austro - Hungarian Monarchy and among other Orthodox Christian communities in that Monarchy. In Central and South America, we can see combinations of santeria, voodoo with Roman Catholic customs. Cannibalism in Papua New Guinea was replaced with Roman Catholic religion. They probably kept cannibalism as their custom. Clergy offers a lot of compromise when they want to attract new people. They care about the census and the percent of members.
     
  22. totti fan

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    Jun 24, 2010
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    Is there a question in there somewhere for me?
     
  23. phat

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    Yes. How illiterate are you?
     
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  24. Gilbertsson

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    Toronto Croatia
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    Switzerland
    #16524 Gilbertsson, Sep 14, 2019
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    There are questions for sure, between the lines mixed with discussion and personal experiences. People who belong to one or several systems are not all the same, they don't think the same. There are prejudices that we who experienced Roman Catholic education have only brainwashed thoughts, that we are too strict, without any love for science, education, animals, plants. Since my early childhood, I acted like sponge, tried to investigate everything, learn things, understand the reasons, why is something like that, is it truthful, is it false? Priests often say: "Pray if you want to pass your exam". Of course, that I must work and learn for any possible achievement. If I don't learn chemistry, I can't pass. Religion is integrated in sports especially. Rafael Nadal is an atheist who is probably among top 2-3 players in history. There are many Protestants, Roman Catholics who were great in tennis. Majority of French football team are members of Muslim faith, even though they have Christian first names. Obvious conversion. A lot of Brazilian footballers are Evangelical in sense of religion.

    A lot of Roman Catholics have in their family trees members who fought for the Roman Catholic faith and they even died for the Church. Majority of them were not venerated in the Church as honourable or treated as martyrs. Clergy often has the attitude: "Life goes on".

    From today's perspective, I doubt that anyone would like to die for his own religion, political system.:D

    I notice the difference, when I visited Catholic Church in 80's, 90's and in 21st century. In 80's, ceremonies were mostly modest, without many singing, instruments, but today they remind me on Protestant Churches in USA, a lot of Gospel, vocal singing, a lot of new songs. It's all about adapting and becoming different. A lot of pilgrim places were created in 20th century, there are people who act that they fell on the ground because of invisible mercy, people who scream and pretend that demons exist in them, same as people who like to use Photoshop to represent something more spiritual. That's the way of attracting new members. Nothing new. I also notice that people who are Roman Catholics through generations are no longer attractive for clergy, they are much more focused on new markets, new members. Proof that we are not brainwashed and delusional.

    I think it was all matter of interest (money, position, influence). Since my family has noble roots, they were attached closely with the church, probably suitable for both sides. Some ancestors lost their lives for defending the Church. It was normal to see the priest in ancestors homes before 50, 100 years, as regular guest.

    Today, left - wing people like to fight for LGBT rights, they create exclusive right to be their defenders. But, in socialist systems gay activities were forbidden and they were treated as abnormal, without Gay Pride walks in the streets.

    I think that we need to understand each other here, when we discuss about something, without insults that I often notice.

    A lot of left - wing people adore materialistic goodies and luxurious lifestyle: cars, comfortable houses, departments, clothes.

    It's not true that Roman Catholics don't care about ecology, science, air pollution. When I visited China, many people carry masks on their faces, I noticed strong fog. Do I want to experience that? Of course not.

    Here is the list of extincted animals:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recently_extinct_mammals

    We all want that they exist today.

    Clergy often opened pharmacies, knowing the importance of plants who worked for the science.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciscan_Church_and_Monastery_(Dubrovnik)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lemaître

    Education of Ancient Rome and Greece was collected and placed in medieval and contemporary times.

    I am just saying, that every system has many pro et contra references, positive and negative. Many of things, acts are just ordinary populism, chameleon, sunflower lifestyles, repetition and reproduction of attitudes from one system or creators of such system blessed with cheap media propaganda and illusion.

    Contemporary prophets:

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braco_(faith_healer)

    If you have seen the movie The Founder, you can see that McDonald's was designed as the new Church for the people, for the families.

    In sports, we see the Special One, goal celebrations of footballers, who pretend to be the masters of life and death, clubs and national teams who are supported with delusional fans, who give the last dollar for the tickets, TV channel stations.

    Questions for you, or for anyone else who knows the answers:

    1. Would you like to live in a quarter, where mostly Romani people (Zingaro, Gypsy) live, or people from Africa, Asia, Aboriginal Australians, and if you experience and see all of their customs, behaviour, traditions and lifestyles? If you become a minority in one street with your family life, what would you do? Would you stay, or leave the quarter?

    2. Would you place your children or close ones in public schools, where they have racial, ethnic, religious tensions, in quarters where you can't leave your car, where you see evident symbols of addictions? Or you would place them in a private school for upper middle class, high class or standard?

    3. Have you ever considered that even white people can become victims of racism from other races? When they create their own quarters in western civilisations. They often don't learn the language and they don't integrate with others. Is this only something nice, preserving their own culture, or is it something else?
     
  25. totti fan

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    Jun 24, 2010
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    1. I based where I live on economic considerations (includes crime) and access to various amenities such as schools/parks etc. I don't care about how white my neighborhood is. My neighbour on one side is Egyptian and on the other Italian. The Egyptian is the better neighbour by far.
    If I was poor I wouldn't be able to live here, poorer neighborhoods tend to have more social problems. Minoritys tend to be poorer on average not because they are genetically inferior but because they lack advantages.
    2. My children go to an elite secular school which is populated 98% by Asians and Indians. It is free public education but the principal has pretentions to be a posh school that acts like the best schools in the state. I didn't want to send my kids to an upper class school or lower class one either, it was more important to me that they mix with regular middle class kids.
    3. Racism against whites is bullshit. White people are and can be poor too but blaming it on minorities is the height of counterproductive stupidity. Immigrants can and do take jobs away from poor white people but it is not their fault it's policy makers. The US border issue is a red herring, denying people help who the US have made destitute is ********ed up. Meanwhile immigrants arrive on planes every day and no-one says anything.
    As to minority cliques where they don't mix, it's because there aren't enough jobs, opportunities to get out amongst the communities. And often they are ostracized which compounds the reasons for them to cluster together.
     

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