New NPSL "Pro" League, 2019

Discussion in 'NASL' started by newtex, Nov 15, 2018.

  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    We already knew the divisions.

    East Division
    Chattanooga FC
    Detroit City FC
    Miami FC
    Miami United FC
    Milwaukee Torrent
    New York Cosmos.

    West Division
    ASC San Diego
    Cal FC
    California United Strikers FC
    FC Arizona
    Oakland Roots


    A new update on the start of the schedule and a bit on the playoffs:

    http://www.npsl.com/news/9946

    The East Region will start games on August 10, the West Region on August 24.

    East opening week schedule:

    Chattanooga FC v. NY Cosmos
    Milwaukee Torrent v. Miami United FC
    Miami FC v. Detroit City FC

    The West opening week is TBA.

    There is also this odd statement:

    The "highest remaining seeds"? So more than 4 teams will make their playoffs? Has anyone seen any information about their playoff format?
     
  2. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You (and they) are assuming more than four teams will survive until the end of the regular season.
     
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  3. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    This is gonna cost some big money
     
  4. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It always costs more than they think.

    Hell, Detroit had a million dollar budget and only made a profit thanks to a home playoff run, not paying players and rarely having to leave the state of Michigan. In the NPSL.

    I don't know how the Oakland Whatevers are going to manage it.
     
  5. annapolis

    annapolis Member

    Jul 3, 2001
    Didn't Detroit spend a bunch of money expanding the business (indoor arena...). Not sure that's a valid data point.

    wrt Oakland, at least they will be able to take buses or vans to all their away games. The one I'd be most worried about is Milwaukee. No huge fan base or big money man that I"m aware of. Plane flights to most away games. The whole point of the Founders Cup is to get a longer season and yet Milwaukee has decided not to compete in the NPSL regular season???
     
  6. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
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  7. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.

    Off to a great start
     
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  8. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    [​IMG]Chris Kivlehan‏ @kivlehan

    Hearing that the #NPSLFoundersCup has a replacement for Cal United. @NapaValley1839 is understood to be the club that will step up giving the Cup two NorCal teams and bringing them back to 5 in the West and 11 overall teams.


    [​IMG]
     
  10. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Napa Valley has done some decent things in their short existence. (By that I mean they once drew 2,291 to a game, though the only two data points I have for them for 2018 were 350 each.)

    Though you'd think if they were really ready to be a professional team, that would have manifested itself before now.

    And I bet Cal United FC ends up in the NISA.
     
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  11. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, no. USL may have the magic of Pro/Rel eventually.

    NPSL/NISA will have the magic of another kind of pyramid.
     
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  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Mitchel Athletic Complex is a great venue that has hosted a number of high-quality international matches."

    It was used for the 1998 Goodwill Games, an alternative to the politicized Olympics invented by Ted Turner.

    Besides that it hosted a couple of Metrostars Open Cup games.

    It's a 50 minute drive or 2 hour transit trip on a Sunday afternoon from Times Square.
     
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  13. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oakland Roots my man they’ll manage just fine. Take a look at what they’ve been putting out. Their going to be making some noise. Their business model makes perfect sense too. Their gonna be grass roots and while their investors likely have deep pockets (you have to put money into something like this) time has shown with these leagues that grass roots are more sustainable then just flooding a team with cash.
     
  14. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would love to see what they are putting out. Point me to it.
     
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  15. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here’s the website...

    https://oaklandrootssc.com/

    Their intro videos to their first players have been fire.





    Their trying to really build community ties and their first few signings have been in that vein. The Bay Area is a very very diverse place and their going to be playing to the young urban brand not the stereotype soccer mom and upper middle class family. I suspect they’ll start making a couple of flashier signings soon. They actually just had some of their gear rocked in a G-Easy music video.
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The stereotype soccer mom and upper middle class family hasn't been a thing since MLS 1.0.
     
  17. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, good.

    If they can sell tickets as well as they can create videos, good for them.

    If they can't, it won't matter. History is not on their side, but good luck to them.
     
  19. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #45 xbhaskarx, Apr 29, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2019


    That's two teams that have bowed out before the league is even close to getting off the ground... will this actually happen, or will they set the American lower division soccer league speedrun record?

    I hope this works out, I'd like to attend at least one Oakland Roots game... although perhaps my hat will gain additional soccer hipster cred if the team never plays!


    A question that was posted elsewhere:

    Wasn't the point of Rocco, Silva and Palmer's NASL/DZero explorations to help fund other teams until league popularity raised them up?

    hmmm...
    [​IMG]
     
  20. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    but but but the magic of pro/rel
     
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  21. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a pro/rel success story, CalFC are self-relegating to avoid financial collapse!
     
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  22. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait, it costs money to do this? Who knew?
     
  23. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    all the pro/rel chest beating nut bags
     
  24. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    I also saw that question, but I'm not sure its point or relevance. That offer was a (really bad) plan to help lift teams up into division 2. It was an unsustainable model then, it would be unsustainable now.
    The whole point of this whole NPSL Pro project is to provide a path for the independent amateur clubs to continue to grow more organically: basically if you need help making this jump, it's a pretty big red flag that you're not ready yet. It's sort of antithetical to mortgage the future on some moonshot of higher returns at a higher level, because the established clubs know there's no big payout coming. The goal is to keep growing enough to keep breaking even.

    Worth noting that the two Founder's Cup teams that have dropped out are both from UPSL.
     

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