Neverending Story 3: The Ongoing Brexit Thread

Which Economist article are we supposed to read, the one on frigid Germany or the one on panspermia?

I though we had gotten past lebensraum.

 

I wonder why @Naughtius Maximus hasn't posted here in a while?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...a-traffic-cam-and-had-a-radar-jammer-n2473974

 

When Harry Potter becomes Harald Töpfer

 

This is where London's bankers are moving after Brexit https://t.co/WZvLVhxT2N pic.twitter.com/ym3YszrKov

— Bloomberg UK (@BloombergUK) May 6, 2018

 

On the 23rd June it'll be 2 years since the brexit vote and we're not much further along than we were when started. It's laughable.

My guess is my lot will end up with an EEA-lite position of some flavour but we'll see, Of course, we could have done that 2 years ago but there we are

 

I personally cant wait for a Norway/Switzerland like agreement where EU bureaucrats will force you guys to deposit mph and all imperial units on the rubbish dump of history. Utopia would be that you might even have to learn how to drive on the correct (right) side.

btw in the next couple of years you're not going to win anything in this either

 

Just watching Julia Hartley-Brewer on Sunday Politics and, although she wants the opposite of what 'remainers' want, I agree with her when she says that to stand any chance of getting a deal May has to just pick a damned side.

But, obviously, if she picks Rees-Mogg's side she then stands no chance of getting it through parliament.

The plain truth is that she should accept some sort of EEA-style arrangement even if it's not exactly that because of the problems around it with the border in NI and other issues.

But, for whatever reason, I suspect she won't do that and will probably be dragged, kicking and screaming, to that position... OR she'll be forced from office and replaced by a more hardline tory like Gove or BoJo who will try, (and fail), to push a hardline brexit through the comons, (so leaving the SM and IM with nothing to replace them), because of those 'uppity furriners' and saboteurs among the tories and labour, liberal and SNP.

As you say, precisely how it will all happen isn't known yet but the bottom line is that the commons HASN'T got a majority for a massively risky move to a hardline brexit and they've already made the decision that it's not up to the executive to have the final say.

 

a United Ireland, finally

 

'Another one???'

It is something of a poisoned chalice atm, being in charge.

 

Seamus Mallon had it right, though. If they try and push things too quickly it would be disastrous.

I don't think a united Ireland is achievable for the time being. What might be is some sort of loose federation where the different parts have competencies over some things but not others.

 

You should look into some interviews with German politicians and people during the time of 88-89. If you told them there would be reunification by October 1990 they would have laughed right into your face. But yes, they need to get everyone on board for this and a federal structure could be the way to do it. Problem is the people on your islands do not possess that much experience with federalism. Devolution is historically speaking a young matter. But they hate each other more in Belgium, speak different languages so why shouldnt the Irish be able to make it function?

 

To be clear, nobody on the left in England gives a shit about Ireland... never have done.

The people who DO are the protestants in northern Ireland, (who are mostly batshit crazy from what I can tell), and some of the right-wingers over here who like them because they give them their votes.

Don't forget, it's the DUP that's propping up the tories atm, as they have done before.

I would LOVE it if the DUP took their votes and buggered off

But, as Mallon says, for the southern Irish, (and particularly the EU), there are severe dangers in that thinking. To try and cause a division in a place that's suffered thousands of deaths in terrorist atrocities so as to get a slightly better trade deal is pretty appalling.

The EU needs to be careful what it wishes for... it might get it.

 

Revealed: plans for Doomsday Brexit
Food, petrol and medicines would run out in a no-deal scenario
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/revealed-plans-for-doomsday-no-deal-brexit-02mld2jg2

We should have tried this before uboats n stuff

 

Ok I will come out of the closet and admit it:

I love Michel Barnier!

 

The bigwigs at Leave.EU have got their top investigators on the case and have already found the culprit...

It seems to be a fella by the name of A. Banks...

PLOT TWIST! I now hear that it was @Arron_banks who gave @sundaytimes the story!!! I emailed him at 11.58am on Friday carefully detailing all the allegations, per good journalistic practice. He claimed he hadn't seen the email & needed more time. Meanwhile... pic.twitter.com/pYX16LRsmC

— Carole Cadwalladr (@carolecadwalla) June 10, 2018

Er... hang on... that name sounds familiar?

 

Banks being "interviewed" by Farage on LBC is a bit like Bonnie interviewing Clyde so he can get his side of the story across.

Also turns out that they blocked Carole Cadwalladr's number from calling, so she used a friend to dial in with a question. Didn't go down well for some reason.

Here's what happened when @carolecadwalla finally got through to Farage's show @LBC tonight. Why wouldn't he take a question from her?pic.twitter.com/ATwOrU1NRf

— Sophie Germain (@veritasta) June 11, 2018

 

Banks also tried to deny he'd been to Russia in February

I have Russian visas in my passport clearly stamped, no visit in Feb 2016. The Sunday Times got the date wrong .. https://t.co/GRmDwRGKuC

— Arron Banks (@Arron_banks) June 11, 2018

It won’t come as a surprise after 4 whole pages, the Sunday Times made a few mistakes. My passport shows two visas Oct 14 & March 15. family trips to visits to my Russian in laws. https://t.co/UsxJFzoGCO

— Arron Banks (@Arron_banks) June 10, 2018

Turns out he forgot how Visas work

So looking at the dates there, it looks like a six month visa that has run out and been extended , If an Oct 14 visa ran out you'd renew it on March 15th... (coincidentally 6 month Visas aren't allowed for tourists (they are just 30 days), just for business visas)

— mr_ceebs (@mr_ceebs) June 11, 2018

And that people can read

1006046449665282053 is not a valid tweet id

 

Also, you notice how he's claiming 'they got the date wrong' and whether he was there 'to visit his Russian in-laws'. Like, who gives a shit whether he was there in Feb or March and why would we be interested if he was also visiting his in-laws... like that would STOP him also seeing other people.

I mean, he's probably also bullshitting about all that as well, but...