Neverending Story 3: The Ongoing Brexit Thread

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

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    While he is an extreme case, the problem is the US hands out ambessadorships as reward for patronage instead of using its professional diplomatic class.

    My understanding was that these people are largely figureheads and the professionals do the real work. I will check on this next time i speak to some diplomatic mates.

    Every country has different systems.
     
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  2. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    The Court gonna decide sometime before November?
     
  3. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
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    This has been a problem in America since the founding of the republic. It's exacerbated by the fact that today's Republicans are stupid ipso facto, so the people who fill these roles are both utterly unqualified and colossally dumb.
     
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  4. Chicago76

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    Jun 9, 2002
    Completely true. The FSOs implement all of the state department/executive policy. Ambassadors are reduced essentially to figureheads. Other than their personal secretary, they very rarely even make hiring decisions at the staff level. They exist to host parties and functions and offer a bit of gravitas as a "rich" or "socially important" person.
     
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  5. The Jitty Slitter

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    According to Jolyon QC, the plan is for Bojo to close down Parliament again after 5 days so it can't stop no deal

     
  6. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Oh well....It was fun watching Jeremy Corbyn perfecting the sabotage of Labour this week end. SMH....
     
  7. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    The man is Bad at Politics.
     
  8. The Jitty Slitter

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    He is awful.

    What really calls him into question is that as a populist, he really isn't popular - and especially he did not kick on from the success in 2017 despite Tory disarray. He can't even command his own party.

    It's all very well to say he is sabotaged by the Tory press, but this is the case for every labour leader.

    Blair's crew were savvy media operators in the sunrise of the spin era. Smarter than the Tories, they pitched and won the support of the Murdoch media.

    Helen Clarke in NZ was also a surprising savvy operator who hired NZ's top TV trainers until she mastered the format. A key strength of hers was demolishing her opponents on TV

    Jacinda is the first true multi-channel operator. Her social media ops is amazing.

    Corbyn is just crap at pretty much everything since 2017 and this time he can't rely on that energised base that led to record membership
     
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  9. The Jitty Slitter

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    Meanwhile Boris was public bunging ££ to his side piece

     
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  10. lanman

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    Aug 30, 2002
    Call me naive, but I don't see how Johnson's position is tenable.
    This shouldn't just be a resigning matter, it should be a case of never being allowed to hold public office again.
     
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  11. Dage

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    And there it is.. the Supreme Court call the break of the parliament a violation of the democratic principles of the UK, _unanimously_.

    What a big blow for the clown and for the "genius" Cummings
     
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  12. lanman

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    Aug 30, 2002
    The court has also revoked the proroguing of Parliament. I honestly didn't see them going that far, especially unanimously.
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

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    Sub Tzu needs to write some new chapters ...
     
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  14. lanman

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    Aug 30, 2002
    As we speak, copies of the Daily Mail are spontaneously combusting in newsagents up and down the country.
     
  15. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    IMG_20190924_110933.jpg

    This is damning.
     
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  16. The Jitty Slitter

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    This is why they are just not good at their jobs

    Running the country is not the same as running propaganda on facebook
     
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  17. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Precisely.

    This is absolutely amazing to watch.
     
  18. charlie15

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    So Bo Jo may have to resign. Good thing, there is a competent Opposition Leader ready to take the lead. Oh wait........o_O;)
     
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  19. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    1176439351640825856 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  20. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Everyone take a second to consider that eleven unarmed elderly women and men have just told the leader of their country's armed forces to stop doing what he wants, and he is going to listen to them.

    We take democracy for granted sometimes, but this is truly impressive.
     
  21. The Jitty Slitter

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    Agreed - this is truly awesome.

    I am biased as a lawyer, but I have always rated the judiciary far higher than the legislature or the executive on this stuff.
     
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  22. charlie15

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    This woman deserves respect.......She has been fearless.

     
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  23. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Leave.EU having a twitter meltdown. Not sure why, as we were told that prorogation had nothing to do with Brexit.
     
  24. song219

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    Is there any speculation as to why the English high court was so out of step with the Supreme Court and the Scottish high court?
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    Under english precedent the exercise of prerogative is not justiciable

    But the supreme court just clarified the matter and essentially validated the Scottish approach

    So the English high court just followed established principles but is now over ruled

    This is why Scotland was chosen as a venue as the law had developed differently there
     
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