Never heard a sweeter sounding word than Feyenoord part 2

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by feyenoordsoccerfan, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Yes, Tata Martino is moving on. The word on the street is that he will take over the Mexico NT position.
     
  2. This wasnot a good day for Nieuwkoop.
    Twice he blundered, twice a goal resulting from the free kick and twice a yellow card = red and we were on a mission impossible.
    The hoop we would fight ourselves back into the title fight after the win over PSV and in Januari the home match against Ajax is now truly vaporized.



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  3. 'Hij was de favoriet binnen Feyenoord om opvolger Van Bronckhorst te ...

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    De aanstelling van Peter Bosz bij Bayer Leverkusen is een tegenvaller voor Feyenoord. De Telegraaf beweert namelijk dat de oefenmeester ...
    'Bosz gold bij Feyenoord als favoriet om Van Bronckhorst op te volgen'
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    Glad it didnot materialize. I've nothing against Bosz, on the contrary, but it wouldnot solve anything.
    We limp behind because of decades of bad decision making.
    That has contributed to us being absent from the CL/EL and the perks that gives to the clubs that filled the void PSV and Ajax.
    Both reap the rewards by having players exhibited on the highest level and thus getting in the premium bonuses for players sold, but also the lure to players to come to those clubs.
    WE HAVE TO BECOME A STABLE ENVIRONMENT WITH A CLEAR CLUB POLICY.
    Haphazard decisions fed by short term feelings are the core issue of why we are lagging our two competitors.
    Would Bosz solve our today problems? Of course not. These arenot coach related, but club related. We lack the funds to be competitive in the transfer market and to have a qualitative broad selection to rotate players out of form and keep pressure on the players that do play.
    Swapping the coach would simply be a window dressing act by the management to show they are active.



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  4. I think I introduced/mentioned in the Dutch forum somewhere the term GIG (= Generation Instant Gratification) meaning this generation is impatient and wants things now, not later.
    In Voetbal International's interview with the top three coaches and Koeman, Gio makes a statement that underpins my term "GIG":

    "'Van Bronckhorst kritisch op huidige generatie spelers'
    19 december 2018 08:02 Bron: Vi.nl 96 reacties Foto: Pro Shots

    Feyenoord heeft het minst geïnvesteerd van de top drie van Nederland. Toch heeft het met Robin van Persie een topper in huis. Ajax en PSV moeten kampioen worden, Feyenoord wil spelers beter maken en doorgroeien naar een hoger niveau.

    De jonge spelers van tegenwoordig zijn veel minder kritisch en trainen zelf veel minder valt de trainer van Feyenoord op in gesprek met Voetbal International. ‘Veel spelers in deze tijd willen met zo min mogelijk doen het maximale rendement halen. Als ik nu bijvoorbeeld een ervaren speler zoals Robin van Persie vergelijk met jonge talenten, merk ik gewoon het grote contrast’, geeft Van Bronckhorst Van Persie een groot compliment.

    De huidige generatie is anders. ‘Bij de huidige generatie moet alles snel, de concentratie is heel kort. Als trainer moet je jezelf daarop instellen, met pass- en trapvormen bijvoorbeeld zorgen dat er veel variatie in zit, afwisseling, zodat ze worden gedwongen zelf na te denken en steeds weer worden geprikkeld. Het komt niet altijd uit henzelf.'
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    Use google translate.





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  5. Feyenoord plays against BVB this Friday. It seems it is available for free on the internet. How does that work?

    BVB testet Rotterdam

    Zudem spielt Borussia Dortmund am 11. Januar gegen Feyenoord Rotterdam. Dann ist um 17 Uhr Anstoß. Auch hier ist Sport1 live und gratis im Free-TV dabei.


    Die Niederländer stehen aktuell auf Platz 3 der Eredivisie – 12 Punkte hinter Tabellenführer PSV Eindhoven. Bekanntester Akteur von Rotterdam dürfte Kapitän Robbin van Persie sein, der inzwischen 35 Jahre alt ist und für Clubs wie Arsenal London und Manchester United spielte.




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  6. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Just do a Google search for the television network. Most have websites that will carry the television feed. Here in the US ESPN carries lots of stuff, some of it is free but most require a small subscription fee.
     
  7. aveslacker

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    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe check Reddit? They usually have a list of streaming options.
     
  8. It is on Free-TV on the internet for free, but I've no clue how that works.
     
  9. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    There should be a weblink to go to. On game day do a Google search and that should pull it up. You could also post to the Dortmund forum here on Big Soccer. Someone there might know what the link is.
     
  10. Lost 2-1 vs Borrussia Dortmund. First goal was a foul as Sven van Beek was pushed in his back by the goal scorer, which lead to the mis headed ball by Sven.
    Their second goal was smelling like off side, but from the angles shown it wasnot possible to make a clear judgement.
    The thing we didnot do well was putting the ball in the net. Their goalie Burkie was stopping several attemps (far more than Bijlow had to ) that should/could be goals.



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  11. I already mentioned the ridiculous media onslaught on Giovanni van Bronckhorst to try to stirr up a call to sack Gio. One of the reasons to do so is the "notion" no player progressed to a high selling price like at PSV and Ajax.
    In this link a coach says something very true about that:
    https://www.fr12.nl/nieuws/49394-van-bronckhorst-is-een-uitstekend-uithangbord-voor-feyenoord.html
    Use google translate.

    Andries Jonker deelt dezelfde mening als Van Halst. "Hij is een trainer die prijzen pakt en de spelers worden voor een behoorlijk bedrag verkocht. Een behoorlijk bedrag, want de sensationele spelers komen niet echt naar Feyenoord toe."


    "Dat zie je bij Ajax en PSV wel, maar bij Feyenoord ontbreekt dat", aldus Jonker. "Toch pakt Van Bronckhorst prijzen en hij is een uitstekend uithangbord voor Feyenoord
    ."

    Andries Jonker shares the same opinion as Van Halst. "He is a coach who wins prizes and the players are sold for a considerable amount of money, a fitting amount, because the sensational players arenot really coming to Feyenoord."

    "You can see that at Ajax and PSV, but at Feyenoord that is lacking," says Jonker. "Van Bronckhorst still wins prizes and he is an excellent sign board/facia for Feyenoord
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  13. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Oh dear, not a good start to the 2nd half of the league campaign
     
  14. Gsus. It's limping time again.
    Were they resting themselves for the cup match against Fortuna?
    Well, playing this way we for sure arenot going to give PSV a push up in the match against Ajax.
    For the new season a clean up is a necessity. There seems to be a total lack of hunger for a good performance.



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  15. https://dagblad010.nl/mentaliteit-feyenoord-is-om-te-huilen/
    Feyenoord's mentality is a crying matter:
    "Bij een smadelijk verlies als dat tegen Zwolle, wordt natuurlijk ook direct gekeken naar de technische staf. Maar of een andere trainer deze selectie beter zou laten voetballen, is zeer de vraag. Het gebrek aan kwaliteit zit vooral in de spelersgroep. Trainer Giovanni van Bronckhorst moet roeien met de riemen die hij heeft. Hij had zaterdagavond bijvoorbeeld graag de opzichtig falende rechtsback St. Juste willen wisselen, zei hij, maar op de bank had hij geen alternatief."

    "In case of a ignominious loss like that against Zwolle, immediately the technical staff is of course also looked at. But whether another trainer would make this selection play better is very questionable. The lack of quality is above all in the players group. Coach Giovanni van Bronckhorst must row with the oars he has. For example, he would have liked to swap the conspicuously failing right back St. Juste this Saturday night, he said, but he did not have an alternative on the bench."


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  16. This management is responsible for the composition of the players group available to Gio. With this group he has delivered more prices in the last four years than in the 10 years or more before that. So Md deJong's remark that they're in charge of the prolongation or not of Gio's contract is respectless shit from a failing bunch themselves. He's actually telling they wouldnot let Gio leave the premises via the front door on his own choice. Fecking shit head.


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  17. Doubt that it will happen, but the senior team should take a good look at the kids what they need to do.
    Feyenoord U16 demolishes Ajax at the "Toekomst" with ample numbers
    :
    https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/sport/voet...-sloopt-ajax-op-de-toekomst-met-ruime-cijfers
    Feyenoord O16 sloopt Ajax op De Toekomst met ruime cijfers
    19 januari 2019 14:01 Aangepast: 19 januari 2019 14:35
    Op sportcomplex De Toekomst was Feyenoord onder de 16 met 7-1 te sterk voor de leeftijdsgenoten van Ajax. De eerste helft wisten de Rotterdammers op Amsterdams grondgebied al op 1-6 voorsprong te komen, in de tweede helft werd het rustig afgemaakt.



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  18. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    ^^Every now and then one of your youth teams does beat an Ajax squad!;)
     
  19. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I just saw a report over here that Gio is leaving as trainer at the end of the season. He really should not be the fall guy for the team's problems.
     
  20. I kind of expected him to walk out by announcing it himself after the cvnty comment by the management they are the ones who call the shots/are in the driving seat when asked about the continuation or not of Gio as coach, which in fact left the nasty taste of Gio was being sacked instead of gracefully leave through the front door.
    So Gio made sure he was the one who called the shot, not the dickheads that havenot been able to at least gather a selection that is closer to PSV and Ajax then we now are.




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  21. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    ^^this is a real shame as Gio is a smart guy and I think will be a good trainer in the right situation. Unfortunately, I don't think he has much of a future in the Eredivisie.
     
  22. [​IMG]
    Giovanni van Bronckhorst. © Pim Ras Fotografie
    Van Bronckhorst houdt regie in handen: ‘Het is goed zo’

    Giovanni van Bronckhorst heeft het geplande gesprek met de leiding van Feyenoord, half februari, niet afgewacht en stopt aan het einde van het seizoen zélf als hoofdtrainer van Feyenoord. Van Bronckhorst heeft technisch directeur Martin van Geel laten weten dat hij na vier seizoenen aan het roer in de Kuip toe is aan een nieuwe uitdaging als trainer.

    Sportredactie 24-01-19, 11:44 Laatste update: 13:51


    Van Bronckhorst keeps control in own hands: 'It's has been good'

    Giovanni van Bronckhorst did not wait for the planned meeting with Feyenoord, mid-February, and stoppes himself at the end of the season as Feyenoord's head coach. Van Bronckhorst has informed technical director Martin van Geel that after four seasons at the helm in de Kuip he is in need for a new challenge as a trainer.




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