[NDR] 2018 World Cup Qualifying

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  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Oceania
    Round 3

    Wednesday, June 7
    Fiji v. New Caledonia 2:00 am

    Thursday, June 8
    Solomon Islands v. Papua New Guinea 11:00 pm
    Sunday, June 11
    New Caledonia v. Fiji 1:00 am

    Tuesday, June 13
    Papua New Guinea v. Solomon Islands 2:00 am

    Current Standings:

    Group A
    New Zealand 4 g.p. 10 pts +6
    -----------------------
    New Caledonia 2 g.p. 1 pts -2
    Fiji 2 g.p. 0 pts -4


    Group B
    Tahiti 4 g.p. 6 pts +3
    ---------------------------
    Papua New Guinea 2 g.p. 3 pts -1
    Solomon Islands 2 g.p. 3 pts -2

    New Zealand and and the winner of Group B will meet in August/September to determine the team that advances to a playoff against the 5th place team from CONMEBOL.
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    CONCACAF Round 5

    Matchdays 5 & 6.

    Thursday, June 8
    USA v. Trinidad and Tobago 7:00 pm
    Costa Rica v. Panama 8:00 pm
    Mexico v. Honduras 9:00 pm

    Sunday, June 11
    Mexico v. USA 7:30 pm

    Tuesday, June 13
    Panama v. Honduras 8:30 pm
    Costa Rica v. Trinidad and Tobago 9:00 pm

    Standings after 4 games:

    1. Mexico 10 pts +4
    2. Costa Rica 7 pts +4
    3. Panama 5 pts +0
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    4. USA 4 pts +1
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    5. Honduras 4 pts -5
    6. Trinidad and Tobago 3 pts -4
     
  3. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    ASIA Round 3
    Matchday 8:

    Thursday, June 8
    Australia v. Saudi Arabia 4:30 am

    Monday, June 12
    Iran v. Uzbekistan 11:45 am

    Tuesday, June 13

    Thailand v. United Arab Emirates 7:00 am
    Iraq v. Japan 7:30 am
    Syria v. China 8:45 am
    Qatar v. South Korea 2:00 pm

    Standings after 7 matches:

    Group A
    1. IRN 17 pts +6
    2. KOR 13 pts +2
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    3. UZB 12 pts +2
    ------------------
    4. SYR 8 pts -1
    5. CHI 5 pts -4
    6. QAT 4 pts -5

    Group B

    1. JPN 16 pts +9
    2. KSA 16 pts +8
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    3. AUS 13 pts +5
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    4. UAE 9 pts -3
    5. IRQ 4 pts -3
    6. THA 1 pts -16
     
  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    UEFA
    Matchday 6:

    Friday, June 9
    Latvia v. Portugal 1:45 pm
    Faroe Islands v. Switzerland 1:45 pm
    Netherlands v. Luxembourg 1:45 pm
    Belarus v. Bulgaria 1:45 pm
    Estonia v. Belgium 1:45 pm
    Gibraltar v. Cyprus 2:45 pm
    Bosnia and Herzegovina v. Greece 2:45 pm
    Sweden v. France 2:45 pm
    Andorra v. Hungary 2:45 pm

    Saturday, June 10
    Azerbaijan v. Northern Ireland 11:00 am
    Scotland v. England 11:00 am
    Slovenia v. Malta 11:00 am
    Kazakhstan v. Denmark 11:00 am
    Montenegro v. Armenia 1:45 pm
    Poland v. Romania 1:45 pm
    Lithuania v. Slovakia 1:45 pm
    Norway v. Czech Republic 1:45 pm
    Germany v. San Marino 1:45 pm

    Sunday, June 11
    Moldova v. Georgia 11:00 am
    Finland v. Ukraine 11:00 am
    Ireland v. Austria 12:00 pm
    Serbia v. Wales 1:45 pm
    Iceland v. Croatia 1:45 pm
    Macedonia v. Spain 1:45 pm
    Italy v. Liechtenstein 1:45 pm
    Israel v. Albania 1:45 pm
    Kosovo v. Turkey 2:45 pm


    Current Standings:
    Group Leaders
    A: France
    B: Switzerland
    C: Germany
    D: Serbia
    E: Poland
    F: England
    G: Spain
    H: Belgium
    I: Croatia

    2nd place teams
    G: Italy
    B: Portugal
    H: Greece
    D: Ireland
    A: Sweden
    C: Northern Ireland
    I: Iceland
    F: Slovakia
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    E: Montenegro
     
  5. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    CONCACAF Round 5

    Matchdays 5 & 6.

    Thursday, June 8
    USA 2-0 Trinidad and Tobago
    Costa Rica 0-0 Panama
    Mexico 3-0 Honduras

    Sunday, June 11
    Mexico v. USA 7:30 pm

    Tuesday, June 13
    Panama v. Honduras 8:30 pm
    Costa Rica v. Trinidad and Tobago 9:00 pm

    Standings after 5 games:

    1. Mexico 13 pts +7
    2. Costa Rica 8 pts +4
    3. USA 7 pts +3
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    4. Panama 6 pts +0
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    5. Honduras 4 pts -8
    6. Trinidad and Tobago 3 pts -6
     
  6. Dynamo_Forever

    Dynamo_Forever Member+

    Aug 9, 2007
    Clear Lake, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    T&T's goalie had some crazy saves, started feeling sorry for the guy. USMNT was very lucky T&T didn't score first. Yedlin seems to be the weakest link on D and was having trouble with T&T's size in the box.
     
  7. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    To me there was a list of problem players, Dempsey couldn't complete a pass, Bradley has been past it most of this cycle, Yedlin is soft on defense, and Brooks has his mental glitches (CR being the low point of that problem).

    There are attacking fixes, I think starting the cycle it was unclear who would unseat Bradley/Jones/Beckerman but now I could see it easily becoming Pulisic/Nagbe/Acosta......if we have the guts to toss the crutches this cycle. Wood can play for Dempsey. Defense is more problematic, not sure what the better options are.

    I do know that I didn't care for the Klinsmann-esque lineup that started VEN and TnT and it played like it first half. The scrappy team he ran out earlier in the spring, though a product of injuries and happenstance, was more energetic and diligent in the game plan. This bunch is a little more complacent and "touch-play" and the question provoked to me was whether Arena in fact has a better grasp of how to make the team play well, since given the chance he'd run out most of the same people Klinsmann did with the same indifferent and mistake-ridden performances. I thought he'd tapped into something and then given healthy players he reverted.

    I think whether we can win games in Russia will come down to whether he can cycle the old players out, find a defense that works, and find "his guys." Last night felt like the same old and if he runs that out to Mexico we will get the same results we were getting in big regional games under Klinsmann. The good thing would be TnT bought us a margin if that happens, but I'm a little concerned Arena's finger isn't really on the pulse.

    And yes I am just as much a fan and critic of the USA as Dynamo. To me part of giving a crap is caring to point out where it could be better.
     
  8. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    TnT actually punched above their weight last night. Stern John has got them a heckava lot more organized and coherient in shape than what we have witnessed from the Soca Warriors of past WCQ cycles.
    Boy howdy can that kid from Hershey PA play ball!!!

    On wards to playing El Cry in Azteca!!!
     
  9. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    Takes two to tango, I thought TnT played well for a half, I also thought we were low energy and wasteful for a while. I also feel like in international ball you have upswings and down ebbs and if Mexico is on an upswing from barely making 2014, we're in a downswing from the 2010 and 2014 teams. Those were done around a core of players who have aged out of quality and mobility. But in many cases those old guys we've not yet shoved them out and yet they are not playing well. We need the next generation to step up. Pulisic and maybe Wood (who didn't even start) are the only ones I'd bet on long term as core future players. As a result on an off day we are vulnerable to TnT.

    If there is some good news it's that the initial struggles in the Hex have begun triggering change. If they hadn't changed the lineups we were going to be lucky to qualify and if we did we would go home beaten and bruised like 2006, when we rode a similarly ageing team into the ground.
     
  10. Heft

    Heft BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Which is surprising because he has done well in extremely physical leagues like the EPL, Championship, and MLS. Might just have had a bad day.
     
  11. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Oceania
    Round 3

    Wednesday, June 7
    Fiji 2-2 New Caledonia

    Thursday, June 8
    Solomon Islands 3-2 Papua New Guinea

    Sunday, June 11
    New Caledonia v. Fiji 1:00 am

    Tuesday, June 13
    Papua New Guinea v. Solomon Islands 2:00 am

    Current Standings:

    Group A
    New Zealand 4 g.p. 10 pts +6
    -----------------------
    New Caledonia 3 g.p. 2 pts -2
    Fiji 3 g.p. 1 pts -4


    Group B
    Tahiti 4 g.p. 6 pts +3
    ---------------------------
    Solomon Islands 3 g.p. 6 pts -1
    Papua New Guinea 3 g.p. 3 pts -2

    Group B is interesting. If Solomon Islands gets a win or draw on Tuesday they advance to the OFC final. Papua New Guinea needs to win by a lot to knock Tahiti out of the top spot.

    New Zealand and and the winner of Group B will meet in August/September to determine the team that advances to a playoff against the 5th place team from CONMEBOL.
     
  12. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    UEFA
    Matchday 6 results:

    Friday, June 9
    Latvia 0-3 Portugal
    Faroe Islands 0-2 Switzerland
    Netherlands 5-0 Luxembourg
    Belarus 2-1 Bulgaria
    Estonia 0-2 Belgium
    Gibraltar 1-2 Cyprus
    Bosnia and Herzegovina 0-0 Greece
    Sweden 2-1 France
    Andorra 1-0 Hungary

    Saturday, June 10
    Azerbaijan 0-1 Northern Ireland
    Scotland 2-2 England
    Slovenia 2-0 Malta
    Kazakhstan 1-3 Denmark
    Montenegro 4-1 Armenia
    Poland 3-1 Romania
    Lithuania 1-2 Slovakia
    Norway 1-1 Czech Republic
    Germany 7-0 San Marino

    Sunday, June 11
    Moldova 2-2 Georgia
    Finland 1-2 Ukraine
    Ireland 1-1 Austria
    Serbia 1-1 Wales
    Iceland 1-0 Croatia
    Macedonia 1-2 Spain
    Italy 5-0 Liechtenstein
    Israel 0-3 Albania
    Kosovo 1-4 Turkey

    Current Standings:
    Group Leaders
    A: Sweden
    B: Switzerland
    C: Germany
    D: Serbia
    E: Poland
    F: England
    G: Spain
    H: Belgium
    I: Croatia

    2nd place teams
    G: Italy
    C: Northern Ireland
    A: France
    I: Iceland
    B: Portugal
    F: Slovakia
    H: Greece
    D: Ireland
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    E: Montenegro
     
  14. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    #314 juvechelsea, Jun 12, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2017
    In the TnT game, goal 1 Pulisic is diving through the box for a cross the keeper maybe should have at least contested, and on goal 2 the keeper gets beat near post. Meh. And to amplify that, IMO you judge defenders and keepers on a 90 minute resume and not highlights. If you play well for 88 minutes and have two glitches you lose 2-0.

    Beasley generally did his job on Vela but that one play, where he was a step behind and refusing to buy himself time with his right foot, cost the tie. The mids should have cut off the play at the pass but you have to take the good with the bad. [Brooks is another guy who can dominate for a stretch and then just flake out and allow two goals in a period of seconds.]

    Comparison: Cameron, this weekend. Minor glitches at most, no goals on him really, routinely bailed us out.
     
  15. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    With the saves Howard made, talking about how good the TnT keeper was, is sort of Freakonomics/Malcolm Gladwell writerly counter-intuitive bull-sh*tting. "It's the opposite of what you think. oooooh." Except maintaining rigor would suggest intuition had it right the first time. The guy who pitched a shutout saving the ball from the upper V, well, he might simply have played better. The one who got beat near post in a game that could have been a tie, not so much. Maybe he has talent. Maybe he could play here. Or maybe there's a reason his career peaked with Ferencvaros and he plays in the TnT league.
     
  16. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. nbrooks503

    nbrooks503 Previously Held @Dynamo Hostage From 2008-2019

    Jun 1, 2008
    Disgruntled Former STH - Fairweather Bandwaggoner
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably because they make the qualification requirements for permanent residence almost impossible to attain:

    To apply for and be granted a permanent resident visa, the applicants must:
    • have certain close family connections in Mexico, or
    • apply for retirement status and prove they have sufficient monthly income (or substantial assets) to support themselves, or
    • have 4 consecutive years of regular status as Temporary Resident, or
    • have 2 consecutive years of regular status as Temporary Resident where that the Temporary Visa was issued through marriage to a Mexican National or a foreign permanent resident, or
    • meet a minimum score under the Points System*, or
    • be granted residency on humanitarian grounds or through political asylum.
     
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  18. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Oceania
    Round 3

    Wednesday, June 7
    Fiji 2-2 New Caledonia

    Thursday, June 8
    Solomon Islands 3-2 Papua New Guinea

    Sunday, June 11
    New Caledonia 2-1 Fiji

    Tuesday, June 13
    Papua New Guinea 1-2 Solomon Islands

    Current Standings:

    Group A
    New Zealand 4 g.p. 10 pts +6
    -----------------------
    New Caledonia 3 g.p. 2 pts -2
    Fiji 3 g.p. 1 pts -4


    Group B
    Solomon Islands 4 g.p. 9 pts +0
    ---------------------------
    Tahiti 4 g.p. 6 pts +3
    Papua New Guinea 4 g.p. 3 pts -3


    Solomon Islands gets the road win and wins group B. They will meet New Zealand with the winner advancing to a playoff against the 5th place team from CONMEBOL.
     
  19. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    A foreigner can't directly own property in Mexico, but rather must enter a trust arrangement through a bank where on paper the bank remains owner and the foreigner is a beneficiary. They haven't been into expropriation lately, but the combined risks of the two, plus security of late, would be daunting.

    Personally if I had any say I'd retire with Mrs. JC to a Greek or Spanish island.
     
  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    ASIA Round 3
    Matchday 8 results:

    Thursday, June 8
    Australia 3-2 Saudi Arabia

    Monday, June 12
    Iran 2-0 Uzbekistan

    Tuesday, June 13

    Thailand 1-1 United Arab Emirates
    Iraq 1-1 Japan
    Syria 2-2 China
    Qatar 3-2 South Korea

    Standings after 8 matches:

    Group A
    1. IRN 20 pts +8
    2. KOR 13 pts +1
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    3. UZB 12 pts +0
    ------------------
    4. SYR 9 pts -1
    5. QAT 7 pts -4
    6. CHI 6 pts -4

    Group B

    1. JPN 17 pts +9
    2. KSA 16 pts +7
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    3. AUS 16 pts +6
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    4. UAE 10 pts -3
    5. IRQ 5 pts -3
    6. THA 2 pts -16


    Iran has qualified for the World Cup. They are the 3rd team in after Russia and Brazil. Japan is assured of at least the AFC playoff round.
     
  21. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good game going on between Honduras n Panama right now on NBC Universo. Our man Pantera Negra just slotted home from 15 yards on a counter attack that caught Panama napping!
     
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  22. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    CONCACAF Round 5

    Matchdays 5 & 6.

    Thursday, June 8
    USA 2-0 Trinidad and Tobago
    Costa Rica 0-0 Panama
    Mexico 3-0 Honduras

    Sunday, June 11
    Mexico 1-1 USA

    Tuesday, June 13
    Panama 2-2 Honduras
    Costa Rica 2-1 Trinidad and Tobago

    Standings after 6 games:

    1. Mexico 14 pts +7
    2. Costa Rica 11 pts +5
    3. USA 8 pts +3
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    4. Panama 7 pts +0
    -----------------------
    5. Honduras 5 pts -8
    6. Trinidad and Tobago 3 pts -7
     
  23. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    The key thing on quali was for us to get points, check, and the teams behind us to bog down, check. We got 4 points from a set including Mexico, which is solid, and the teams behind us tied or lost yesterday. If you want to finish second or go top it didn't go perfect, but if you want to gap the chase pack that was ideal, tie of the teams right behind us, no one gets 3.
     
  24. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    Another thing interestingly going on, kind of ironic since Klinsi is no longer HC, is there is about to be a burst of dual nationals coming available. Gonzalez the Dallas keeper (MX), Stefan Frei (CH), Kekuta Manneh (GAMBIA), Dom Dwyer (ENG), and Kenny Saief (ISR). Some of them are on the Gold Cup roster.

    I wish one of them played defense.
     

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