Thursday Campbell @ James Madison Rhode Island @ Syracuse Denver @ Missouri State Coastal Carolina @ NC State Loyola Chicago @ Kentucky California @ UC Santa Barbara Wright State @ Notre Dame Iona @ Maryland Lehigh @ Pittsburgh South Florida @ Louisville West Virginia @ Butler Yale @ Boston College Seattle @ Loyola Marymount Fairleigh Dickinson @ New Hampshire NJIT @ Providence Mercer @ Charlotte Sunday W1 @ (1) Virginia W2 @ (16) St. John's W3 @ (9) UCF W4 @ (8) SMU W5 @ (5) Indiana W6 @ (12) Saint Mary's W7 @ (13) Michigan W8 @ (4) Wake Forest W9 @ (3) Georgetown W10 @ (14) UC Davis W11 @ (11) Marshall W12 @ (6) Washington W13 @ (7) Stanford W14 @ (10) Virginia Tech W15 @ (15) Penn State W16 @ (2) Clemson
Why Missouri State, undefeated, is not seeded? RPI 12. i.e. get a first round bye? Stanford RPI 13 is seeded…. Or Penn State RPI 20.
Missouri State is 3-0-1 vs. Central Arkansas (not a Tournament team) and Loyola Chicago. That is their only games vs. the top half of the country. SOS is 132.
I'm waiting for (as in I am too lazy to do it myself) someone's detailed analysis of the likely thought processes behind the seedings and bracket assignments.
All 1st-round game times known. All but two 2nd-round game times known. Thursday G11, 6:00 pm EST: West Virginia @ Butler G14, 6:00 pm EST: Fairleigh Dickinson @ New Hampshire G1, 7:00 pm EST: Campbell @ James Madison G2, 7:00 pm EST: Rhode Island @ Syracuse G4, 7:00 pm EST: Coastal Carolina @ NC State G5, 7:00 pm EST: Loyola Chicago @ Kentucky G7, 7:00 pm EST: Wright State @ Notre Dame G8, 7:00 pm EST: Iona @ Maryland G9, 7:00 pm EST: Lehigh @ Pittsburgh G12, 7:00 pm EST: Yale @ Boston College G15, 7:00 pm EST: NJIT @ Providence G16, 7:00 pm EST: Mercer @ Charlotte G10, 7:30 pm EST: South Florida @ Louisville G3, 8:00 pm EST: Denver @ Missouri State G6, 10:00 pm EST: California @ UC Santa Barbara G13, 10:00 pm EST: Seattle @ Loyola Marymount Sunday G21, 12:00 pm EST: W5 @ (5) Indiana G25, 12:00 pm EST: W9 @ (3) Georgetown G17, 1:00 pm EST: W1 @ (1) Virginia G27, 2:00 pm EST: W11 @ (11) Marshall G22, 4:00 pm EST: W6 @ (12) Saint Mary's G26, 4:00 pm EST: W10 @ (14) UC Davis G30, 4:00 pm EST: W14 @ (10) Virginia Tech G18, 5:00 pm EST: W2 @ (16) St. John's G24, 5:00 pm EST: W8 @ (4) Wake Forest G31, 5:00 pm EST: W15 @ (15) Penn State G19, 6:00 pm EST: W3 @ (9) UCF G32, 6:00 pm EST: W16 @ (2) Clemson G20, 8:00 pm EST: W4 @ (8) SMU G29, 8:00 pm EST: W13 @ (7) Stanford G23, TBD: W7 @ (13) Michigan G28, TBD: W12 @ (6) Washington
This is a travesty. So the new RPI rankings came out today and they are no where near how the teams were ranked nationally. How does this ACC, Pac 12 and Big10 run selection committee actually select who seeds and where? It makes no sense. Wikipedia definition of RPI. The rating percentage index, commonly known as the RPI, is a quantity used to rank sports teams based upon a team's wins and losses and its strength of schedule. It is one of the sports rating systems by which NCAA basketball, baseball, softball, hockey, soccer, lacrosse, and volleyball teams are ranked. Someone needs to go in and cross out "soccer". I am not a soccer genius but please answer these questions if you can. How does RPI #3 SMU potentially play #5 UCF to then go on to play top seed Virginia in the next round? How does Clemson lose decisively to Virginia 3-1 (with a late Clemson goal) and still get the #2 seed? Wake Forest get a number 4 seed when they have 4 losses and 2 ties to finish? Stanford who can't win their conference and loses their last game to #49 ranked Cal, jumps #13 to a 7 seed? How does undefeated #12 Missouri State not get seeded and then have to play RPI #5 UCF? if we are trying to grow the sport of soccer in the US there has to be an impartial selection process with people that actually go out and watch a few games.
the problem is there was absolutely no thought process done by the seeding committee. reason why soccer will never catch on in college sports. its all about who you are as opposed to how you perform.
I believe they put a lot of weight into local/regional matchups which may reduce travel but confound seeding
I borrowed it from my astrologer. https://www.pressreader.com/india/hindustan-times-lucknow/20141117/281827167064166
Gauchodan computes Committee has the final say Everyone complains (to the tune of Moonlight in Vermont)
RPI is no longer used for men's basketball. It was replaced by the NET, which has its own issues. Everyone, RPI is not the sole criteria for selecting and seeding teams. The following is from the 2019 Pre-Championship Manual for men's soccer. The following criteria shall be employed by a governing sports committee in selecting participants for NCAA championships competition: ● Won-lost record; ● Strength of schedule; and ● Eligibility and availability of student-athletes for NCAA championships. In addition to Bylaw 31.3.3, the Men’s Soccer Committee shall consider the following criteria in the selection of at-large teams for the men’s soccer championship (not necessarily in priority order): ● Adjusted Rating Percentage Index (RPI), which includes: - Won-lost-tied record (25%). - Opponents’ strength of schedule (50%). - Opponents’ opponents’ strength of schedule (25%). - Bonus/penalty system. ● Head-to-head competition. ● Results versus common opponents. ● Strength and results against nonconference opponents. ● Results against teams already selected (including automatic qualifiers with an RPI of 1-75). ● Late-season performance in last eight games (strength and results). ● Strength and results against conference opponents. Recommendations provided by regional advisory committees also shall be considered by the Men’s Soccer Committee. Coaches’ polls and/or any other outside polls or rankings are not used as a criterion by the Men’s Soccer Committee for selection purposes.
Which is why the South Florida / Louisville winner will be flying across the country to UC Davis, and the BC / Yale winner will head to Washington for their 2nd round game.
If only I had been smart enough to qualify it with something like “...put a lot of weight on...” I doubt they can achieve geographic balance in the initial field and do what they can to maintain seeding as the rounds progress.
I still will never understand how so much weight is put into conference tournament champs (i.e., National Tournament spot) BUT you still have to travel for first match to teams who got in via at-large bid. I get it, they may be higher ranked, better conference, higher RPI, etc. But, this goes back to if we want to grow soccer, there has to be a reward for WINNING what is setup as the way to get into the tournament.
Several years back (some?) teams submitted bids to host. Those bids included size of stadium, type of field, locker facilities, lights, proximity etc. The program I was familiar with got the bid due to a lighted grass field dedicated to soccer, seating capacity, proximity to locker rooms , ability to staff etc. I believe the bid went in as soon as they qualified which allowed the NCAA to build the bracket. I attended twenty-ish games this year and I’d say a few of those teams would not qualify as a host based on lack of seating, the absence of quality locker rooms, no concessions, dispersed parking, no press box etc. I presume some schools might not want to host based on conflicts with other sports like b-ball, short-notice need for security, ticket takers, trainers etc.