NBC Sports Networks thread

Discussion in 'TV, Satellite & Radio' started by SirFozzie, Aug 8, 2015.

  1. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

    May 23, 2001
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not included here, not sure of the future of SSN unfortunately. Maybe it will pop up after the Tour de France
     
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  2. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

    May 23, 2001
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is no such thing as the E in EPL. It's The Premier League (particularly now without a title sponsor). Previously it was referred to as The Premiership. Only time I've heard a British person use that acronym is on US/Intl TV in the past few years. I think The Premier League gave up on correcting broadcasters and embraced it.

    Also, ePL now stands for electronic Premier League (gaming) and is an actual thing apparently

    https://www.premierleague.com/search?term=EPL
     
  3. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe they realized it was a good idea? ;)

    After all it's the Premier league (first division) of the ENGLISH Football League, no?
     
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  4. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I doubt it. I mean i think it's inevitable I'll raise but would it go from 5 bucks a month to 65 or even 50 just based on the Premier League? I have a hard time thinking that would be the case.

    Hell even if they did match it, given the additional content that's on ESPN+, it still be worth it IMO.

    Given that DTV had gotten rid of BeIN, I absolutely loved the fact they picked up Serie A.
     
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  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ESPN+ currently costs $5/mo or $60/yr. NBC's PL Pass currently costs the same (for existing customers) and slightly more for new customers.

    What I'm saying is that it's not such a huge stretch to think that ESPN would embrace the separate subscription idea for PL Pass, in addition to the standard ESPN+. Alternatively they would just add PL content to their already voluminous ESPN+ content, but it's really hard to fathom they wouldn't raise the price in that scenario from their original $5/mo.

    My bet is on further fracturing of content & a la carte subscriptions, which will in the aggregate, make streaming providers richer in the end.
     
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  6. Frankball

    Frankball Member+

    Sep 11, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even though the ESPN+ offers at a value price (annually or monthly), it doesn't carry the Premier League, Premier League Lacrosse (PLL), major cycling events (e.g., Tour de France), big figure skating events, speed skating events, PGA Tour Live, pro motocross, Indycar, many of the rugby contents (e.g., the Premiership Rugby, Rugby World Cup, Heineken Champion Cup & European Rugby Challenge Cup, and the Guinness Six Nations), track and field, and the Supercross.

    So, it's could be a tough sell for ESPN+ if some of the American sports fans if they're enthusiast in any of the category I mentioned from the previous paragraph.
     
  7. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

    May 23, 2001
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Premier League is not part of the EFL (formerly The Football League). It broke away in the early 90s and only reports to The FA. Official names for the Prem...

    Period Sponsor Brand
    1992–1993 No sponsor FA Premier League
    1993–2001 Carling FA Carling Premiership[14]
    2001–2004 Barclaycard FA Barclaycard Premiership[14]
    2004–2007 Barclays FA Barclays Premiership
    2007–2016 Barclays Premier League[14][100]
    2016– No sponsor Premier League

    The "EPL" acronym was invented by the non-British media. I'm crediting our pal Lionel. Or maybe Bretos. :)
     
  8. Frankball

    Frankball Member+

    Sep 11, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're absolutely right about the Prem being separate from the EFL. I knew that and shouldn't have written what I did. My bad.

    Sorry to say I will still call it "EPL", even when it becomes the Bet365 Premier League.
     
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  10. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was posted and forgotten about that last season's subscribers get $5 off and are charged $59.99. People complain when payments auto-renew. NBC sent me an e-mail on June 28 that I will be charged on or about August 5, which is plenty of time to cancel or downgrade to the games only package.

    I agree that if ESPN+ gets the Premier League they will raise the price and/or make separate packages, and that fragmented streaming could make it more expensive for people to watch the same amount.

    I don't watch movies. The only video I pay for outside of cable TV are Premier League Pass, ESPN+, and MLB.TV.
     
  11. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

    May 23, 2001
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I seriously doubt that ESPN is looking to fragment a product that they want to stay singular and grow. This is the early phase of their "Netflix for sports" platform. The Prem is valuable in the US but not so much that it would change strategy for a monster like ESPN/Disney.

    Also ESPN's strategy can stay more long sighted because they're not a cable provider + content provider (vs. Comcast/NBC). The Gold thing was reactive, they wanted to recoup some cash but couldn't offer an over-the-top product because that competes against the cable subscriptions Comcast still wants you to buy.
     
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  12. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's how many games will be on each English channel (PLP means Premier League Pass):

    Friday August 9-Sunday August 11: NBC 1, NBCSN 5, CNBC 1, PLP 3
    There will be two games on Sunday at 9:00 A.M. with one on CNBC. NBC's game should be an easy home win because it's Tottenham vs. Aston Villa. The untelevised games are Burnley vs. Southampton, Crystal Palace vs. Everton, and Watford vs. Brighton & Hove Albion. AFC Bournemouth vs. Sheffield United was chosen over those.

    Saturday August 17-Monday August 19: NBC 1, NBCSN 5, CNBC 1, PLP 3 (the same distribution as the first week)
    NBC will have Manchester City vs. Tottenham. It's hard to have a bigger difference in difficulty in consecutive league games than hosting Aston Villa and going to Manchester City. The untelevised games are Brighton & Hove Albion vs. West Ham United, Everton vs. Watford, and Norwich City vs. Newcastle United. Southampton vs. Liverpool on NBCSN and Aston Villa vs. AFC Bournemouth on CNBC were chosen over those.

    Friday August 23-Sunday August 25: NBC 1, NBCSN 5, CNBC 0, PLP 4
    NBC will have Liverpool vs. Arsenal. The untelevised games are Brighton & Hove Albion vs. Southampton, Sheffield United vs. Leicester City, Watford vs. West Ham United, and Wolverhampton vs. Burnley. Manchester United vs. Crystal Palace was chosen over those.

    Saturday August 31-Sunday September 1: NBC 1, NBCSN 4, CNBC 0, PLP 5
    With no games on Friday or Monday, there are 6 games on Saturday at 10:00 A.M. NBC will have Burnley vs. Liverpool. The untelevised games are Manchester City vs. Brighton & Hove Albion, Crystal Palace vs. Aston Villa, Leicester City vs. AFC Bournemouth, Newcastle United vs. Watford*, and West Ham United vs. Leicester City. Chelsea vs. Sheffield United was chosen over those.

    Break for national teams

    Saturday September 14-Monday September 16: NBC 1, NBCSN 5, CNBC 0, PLP 4
    NBC will have Norwich City vs. Manchester City. The untelevised games are Manchester United vs. Leicester City, Brighton & Hove Albion vs. Burnley, Sheffield United vs. Southampton, and Wolverhampton vs. Chelsea. Tottenham vs. Crystal Palace was chosen over those.

    Friday September 20-Sunday September 22: NBC 1, NBCSN 5, CNBC 0, PLP 4
    NBC will have Newcastle United vs. Brighton & Hove Albion. It will be Brighton & Hove Albion's first televised game after 4 on PLP. This is the first time the Saturday at 12:30 P.M. game will not have one or both from the big six. The untelevised games on Saturday are Burnley vs. Norwich City, Crystal Palace vs. Wolverhampton, and Everton vs. Sheffield United. Manchester City vs. Watford was chosen over those. September 22 will be the first Sunday with an untelevised game. There will be 2 games at 11:30 A.M., with Chelsea vs. Liverpool on NBCSN and Arsenal vs. Aston Villa on PLP.

    Saturday September 28-Monday September 30: NBC 1, NBCSN 4, CNBC 0, PLP 5
    NBC will have Leicester City vs. Newcastle United. There will be only 1 game on Sunday, and 6 games on Saturday at 10:00 A.M., with Chelsea vs. Brighton & Hove Albion on NBCSN. The untelevised games are Tottenham vs. Southampton, Aston Villa vs. Burnley, Crystal Palace vs. Norwich City, AFC Bournemouth vs. West Ham United, and Wolverhampton vs. Watford.

    The totals are NBC 7, NBCSN 33, CNBC 2, and PLP 28. Exactly 40 percent are on PLP. If the claim of 140 games on PLP is correct, that's 36.8 percent, which means that 36.1 percent of the games on the last 31 matchdays will be on PLP. I'm surprised that the PLP percentage would be higher in a span that doesn't have any midweek matchdays. They seem to alternate weeks between having a game on Friday and a game on Monday. A Monday through Friday period will either have games on both of those days or neither. When there is a Saturday to Monday week followed by a Friday to Sunday week, 6 of 9 days will have games. I'm assuming the week without a Friday or Monday game is because it is before national team games.

    The first midweek matchday will be Matchday 15 on Tuesday December 3 and Wednesday December 4. There will be 4 midweek matchdays plus games postponed to midweeks. The season ends on Sunday May 17, which is 307 days from today and 282 days after the first game.

    * The page put AFC Bournemouth two lines in a row, so I looked up that they meant Watford.
     
  13. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's notable is that cord-cutters can watch all 380 games on PLP, but televised games will be on PLP at 9:00 P.M., so a TV provider and PLP are needed to watch every game live.
     
  14. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's yeoman's work Evan!

    Looks like 5-7 games per week on cable TV channels and 6 on average.

    Seems pretty good and perhaps no change from last season?
     
  15. Real Macao

    Real Macao Member

    Sep 7, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    "ESPN" is already fragmented - an ESPN+ only subscriber cannot watch top NBA, NFL, MLB, college football and other content that is carried by ESPN. It really is an add-on service for those that get ESPN through other means (cable, Sling, etc). If ESPN got the Premier League (rights they would have to pay serious money for), they would either have to put premier content (Top 6 games) on the regular "ESPN," create a new ESPN+ tier for soccer, or raise the price of ESPN+.
     
  16. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

    May 23, 2001
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They would raise the price for ESPN+ a dollar or so and put two or three desirable matches on cable per weekend.

    An ESPN+ system that does include their top tier properties like NFL and NBA is their future at some point. They're getting started on the tech and platform early, as is Disney+. I think at some point moving forward we'll just see streaming and traditional cable kind of merge into a best of both worlds single product. Turning your cable box into more of a Roku style stream box with network branded content areas rather than dedicated channels.
     
  17. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

    May 23, 2001
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And my guide shows SSN making a comeback Monday 7/29. Just in time for end of xfer window in England. :D
     
  19. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    I guess that’s expected with Le Tour ending on Sunday. Would be nice if they showed SSN at a somewhat useful timeslot.
     
  20. MisterB1968

    MisterB1968 Member

    Feb 27, 2008
    New Castle, DE
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes a lot of auto racing that is officially streamed for free to the rest of the world is geoblocked in the US because the rights are owned by someone else (generally the Motor Trend On Demand premium streaming service).
     
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  21. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    Thank God NBC lost the rights to Formula One. So much better under ESPN. The “C” in NBC must stand for “commercial “. Hope EPL goes to espn+.
     
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  22. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    Had to search for the details of the upcoming Premier League Pass season since I didn't receive an email about the automatic renewal date. Even though I'm now in the UK, I'll basically have to get PL Pass again if I want to be able to adequately follow Wolves (and the league as a whole, really).

    Considering I thought $50/season was fine for me, $60/season that includes replays of even the NBC/NBC Sports matches is a pretty swell deal. Here in the UK, I literally can't legally watch Wolves' damn season opener because the Arsenal-Newcastle match will be the only match airing live in the early Sunday slot. It's either use my PL Pass/VPN or simply listen to the match on BBC Radio - truly absurd.

    Restrictions of the 3 p.m. blackout in the UK aside, the only way to follow the matches actually airing live here is via a comprehensive, traditional TV package. The only true streaming option is limited to the Sky Sports channels (live only, no DVR/on demand) at £199 for 10 months (a special PL deal available through August; it's regularly £34.99/mo.). But that leaves out the matches airing on BT Sport (TV package or mobile plan via BT Mobile needed; also the carrier of Champions/Europa League). And then there are the holiday fixtures (all midweek matches the first week of Dec. as well as those on Boxing Day) that will air exclusively on Amazon Prime.

    In the UK, two of Wolves' first seven PL matches will be on live TV...
     
  23. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone know the deadline for renewing PLP and getting the "deal" for being a current customer?
     
  24. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
  25. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But if you renew early (now) you still get the $5 discount?
     

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