NASL/USL Merger?

Discussion in 'USL Expansion' started by Owen Thornhill, Dec 28, 2015.

  1. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    #127 The Irish Rover, Nov 29, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2017

    "They'll have playoffs in England before we have promotion & relegation in the US"
    Garth Lagerway, speaking to ESPN
     
  3. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Because they're unhappily married?
     
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  4. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there any other kind?
     
  5. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    Timbers 2 was ok before they cut all funding to the team, Now its a glorified U23 team who barely my double digits in points tally. T2 were better supported than many independent teams.
     
  6. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    The top of these 14 clubs are fighting for a Europa league spot. The big 4-6 teams don't care about the Europa league but can you tell me that Fulham didn't enjoy a Europa cup final?
     
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  7. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think Europa is a joke at all. Winner gets a spot in the Champions League; what's not to like.

    The problem is pro/relots either forget about Europa or downplay the hell out of it while constantly saying "Leicester City! Leicester City!" when it comes to "small fry". Ask them about Everton, or Swansea City, or West Bromwich Albion, and they'll stare at you blankly cuz you didn't say "Manchester City".
     
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  8. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    I'm an AFC Wimbledon supporter so playing Everton, Swansea or West Brom would be a big FA cup game, but it depends on the person you talk too. I could talk about lots of smaller clubs than AFC Wimbledon but not many could.
     
  9. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, with NASL looking like dog doo on a stick now, & with North Carolina & the Indy Eleven (virtually) joining up, with Jacksonville & San Diego potentially looking elsewhere, I'd say it wasn't a merger more so as an unintentional conquest by USL.
     
  10. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah there's no point in "merging" at this point. USL has received, or is in the process of receiving, at the team's request, all of the best of what NASL had to offer. The remainder, OC, NY, Miami, and PR, aren't worth USL's time due to market conflicts, trouble maker owners, or simply not being a reasonable location for a minor league team that plays US mainland based teams. respectively.
     
  11. hipityhop

    hipityhop Member

    New Mexico United
    United States
    Jan 10, 1999
    Mission TX
    Club:
    SønderjyskE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It seems NASL likes a small league with teams as far apart as possible. I wonder why they failed.
     
  12. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    I would take them and make 4 conferences including a Southeast Conference including P.R. Miami could eventually become Beckham's affiliate team, and Cosmo's could be an affiliate for someone also. In a city as Big as NYC you can have more than 2 clubs. Especially if Cosmos stay east of the river.
     
  13. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    So we've basically had a merger.

    There are now more former NASL teams in the USL - 5 (Indianapolis, North Carolina, Ottawa, San Antonio, Tampa Bay)

    Than there are left in the NASL (Miami, New York, maybe Puerto Rico and supposedly two expansion teams in SoCal).

    I know they have big plans with all these NPSL teams joining and yada, yada, but it's really hard to take this league too seriously given it's current state.
     
  14. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You forgot Jacksonville. That's 6 for NASL until we find out that Puerto Rico is actually gone.
     
  15. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just go look at the teams in NASL from 2015 and 2014 ... more teams defunct that still in NASL, and MANY more in USL than still in NASL.
     
  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    There was the 2010 forced merger of the teams that wanted to be NASL and what was left of the USL First Division but the league history really starts with 2011.

    NASL 2011:
    1. Carolina RailHawks - now in USL as North Carolina FC
    2. Puerto Rico Islanders - folded
    3. Tampa Bay Rowdies - now in USL
    4. Fort Lauderdale Strikers - folded
    5. Edmonton - on hiatus, waiting on the CPL?
    6. NSC Minnesota Stars - now in MLS as Minnesota United
    7. Montreal Impact - now in MLS
    8. Atlanta Silverbacks - folded, name now being used by NPSL team

    None of them are left in the NASL.

    Other NASL teams since then:
    9. San Antonio Scorpions - folded*
    10. New York Cosmos
    11. Ottawa Fury - now in USL
    12. Indy Eleven - now in USL
    13. Jacksonville Armada
    14. Miami FC

    15. Rayo OKC - folded
    16. Puerto Rico FC
    17. San Francisco Deltas - folded
    18. Cal United - hasn't played yet?
    19. San Diego 1904 - hasn't played yet?

    *the USL San Antonio FC is not a continuation of the NASL Scorpions
     
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  17. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Problem is Cosmos and Miami would never go fo being someone’s affiliate. Or involved with USL.
     
  18. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    There are independent teams in the league. But unless they switch to USL they will have to close their doors instead.
     
  19. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think they’d rather remain in limbo suing USSF at this point than join the system they’re actively trying to destroy. It’s no longer about soccer for miami and NYC...
     
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  20. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Cosmos are thinking about continuing on as a women's team in the NWSL fwiw.
     
  21. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    #146 The Irish Rover, Jan 10, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2018
    If you add 50 cents, you might get a cup of coffee.

    Might.
     
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  22. CBlake

    CBlake Member

    May 20, 2007
    North of somewhere
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess at this point with the Indy announcement today and the USL schedule being released next week all we have to see is if Jacksonville makes the move too. It does make sense for them at this point in my mind, to begin with travel would be much easier on them.
     
  23. El Chico Carmona

    Mar 10, 2015
    Baraboo, Wisconsin
    Club:
    FC Dallas
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