NASL Strengthens for 2017 & Future

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's the deal with Tulsa Athletics averaging almost 3,500 in NPSL? Isn't one team in Tulsa enough?
     
  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It could also be that the owners don't want to divulge that information either, seeing as these are privately held companies/entities. They have no legal obligation to divulge financial information to the public.
     
  3. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    They might never be able to release details. But if the league redeemed Traffic's B shares they'd be the other party. If it's the owners, or new investors, why would they not want to be announced as purchasers?

    Maybe they just don't think anyone cares I guess.
     
  4. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Well usually the reason why they would not be able to announce is because while they have come to an agreement it still might be being processed. Similar to buying a house, you come to an agreement, but you don't close for another month. Or as jaykoz said they simply don't have any incentive to say.
     
  5. deedougie

    deedougie Member

    Jul 5, 2000
    OAK,CA
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. Bklyn Royals Fan

    United States
    Jan 17, 2008
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Wow, kudos on the trip in the wayback machine.
     
  8. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Peter Wilt said that Chicago would begin again their negotiations for a stadium in November. Has anyone heard anything?
     
  9. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope, and with the resent news for NASL, this is now a harder sell.
     
  10. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    This must be one of the positives that Peter Wilt was referring to.
     
  11. ChinaBlue

    ChinaBlue Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    He did say "the next month is going to be interesting". Well, he is not wrong.
     
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  12. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Cosmos get new rich investors! Belmont approved! Red Bull admits defeat! NYFC to close shop.























    Nevermind.
     
  13. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Z'berg, I thought that you had a hidden message in masked lettering (i.e. white text on white background). Did a "select all." Nope on the message.
     
  14. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Nah....I'm not that clever.
     
  15. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Strengthening for the Future....of NASL 3.0 at some point in the future.
     
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  16. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As they say; third time's the charm.
     
  17. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    This thread's title keeps getting better every day.
     
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  18. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
  19. USRufnex

    USRufnex Red Card

    Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
    #244 USRufnex, Nov 30, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2016
    We can support a team in either the USL or the NASL but not both... not long term, anyway.

    The stat you're reading (presumably on kenn.com) is solely based on our 2016 season opener.

    I believe our game against FC Wichita had around 3,500 also.
    Other than those two games, I'd guesstimate our 2016 average was a little over 2k per game, which is a marked improvement over last year when the USL club still had new car smell. Our first two seasons as the only team in town we averaged well over 3k per game.

    The first season after Roughnecks FC arrived, our crowds dipped to between 800 and 1,500 per game.

    I know the Athletics FO understand that Tulsa and OKC cannot support teams in both USL and the NASL for any appreciable length of time. After the dust cleared this season, turns out Rayo OKC only sold about 1,200 tix per game.

    So, in the current closed system, we will have to see what happens to the Roughnecks after this past dumpster fire season in which they inexplicably fired AND promoted their coach... the USL agreements make sure they commit to at least three years... so maybe the Drillers pull the plug after Year 3 which is entirely possible....

    We're in wait-and-see mode but IMHO our chances of long term survival are infinitely higher than NASL OKC no matter what ultimately happens to the Tulsa USL club.
     
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  20. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, I'm being truly genuine here ... absolutely serious question:

    How can you advocate for pro/rel as you have, using Tulsa as an example with the competition and "stadium pro/rel" and everything else ... stating you'd rather see two teams competing in the same pyramid etc ... and then make these statements here?

    It literally cuts your own argument off.
     
  21. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No legitimate argument for Pro/Rel exists in the US, so anyone who spends any serious energy advocating it will generally have glaring contradiction in other posts.
    Pro/Rel is stupid.
     
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  22. USRufnex

    USRufnex Red Card

    Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
    #247 USRufnex, Dec 2, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2016
    Bullshit.
    You sir, are a stupid ass. :rolleyes:

    There are VERY LEGITIMATE arguments for Pro/Rel in this country.
    There are three markets in this area: OKC, Tulsa, and Wichita.
    There is no reason OKC can't be the strongest market due to its size, but frankly, their soccer history has, until very recently, been a distant third behind Tulsa and Wichita.

    If we someday have three hardworking, viable, fully professional and independent soccer organizations in these three cities constantly competing with each other for promotion or to avoid relegation over the course of decades, competing over who is strong enough to compete in the top division, American soccer would be in a far better place.
     
  23. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and were are they going to find owners to foot the bill for promotion?
     
  24. USRufnex

    USRufnex Red Card

    Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
    If ya learn how to write good, maybe I'll tell you.
     
  25. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    People can argue on the internet about pro/rel all they want, but until the owners from all the leagues get on the same page it won't happen.
     

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