NASL is no longer considering suing US Soccer for anti-trust over division 1 status

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  1. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
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  2. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Chicago
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    Chicago Fire
    They could get the court filing fees waived under the (archaic and rudely named, but apt) "pauper's petition."
     
  3. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

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    #3 gstommylee, Sep 21, 2016
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    By the time such a case is heard and a ruling comes out NASL might not even exist.

    And people want US soccer to go to Pro/rel....
     
  4. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Chicago
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    So true.
     
  5. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Hard to be suing when you might not be existing ...
     
  6. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
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    It wouldn't surprise me if NASL gets dropped to division 3 (of they continue to exist) and USL becomes division 2
     
  7. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    My hunch which I just floated on the NASL board:

    The USSF forces a shotgun wedding between the USL and NASL in 2017. (Don't know how they handling sanctioning. Might just call the conglomerated league D-II as they did in 2010.) Both exist, but not independently. Then in 2018, the NASL fades into oblivion as everything comes under the USL banner.
     
  8. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
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    From what it sounds like on NASL Reddit, Miami FC and the Cosmos are going to go down with the ship while everyone else jumps ship or folds.
     
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  9. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
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  10. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    They can be like the Globetrotters and the Washington Generals.

    Except they'll both be the Washington Generals!
     
  11. Tom Ado

    Tom Ado Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    MLS = MLB
    USL = Stable affiliated minor leagues
    NASL = Unstable independent leagues that go under within 5 years

    Getting pretty damn close to reality now.
     
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  12. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    So basically MLS assumes a protected trust status. Seems about right. We've come a long way.
     
  13. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    But the Generals are/were awesome and entertaining in their own right.

    Nothing wrong with the exhibition circuit.

    Here are two fine exhibitions that took place within 2 weeks of each other.



     
  14. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
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    Once again, mere words cannot express my joy and happiness over leaving the NASL a year earlier than originally scheduled.
     
  15. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Is this the new tank thread?
     
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  16. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
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    Philadelphia Union
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    There was never a suit filed. Kessler wrote a letter saying more or less that they reserve the right to sue if you update standards that hadn't even been put to a vote.
     
  17. blacksun

    blacksun Member+

    Mar 30, 2006
    Seoul, Korea
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    I would be very, very surprised if they did that. They only did it in 2010 because neither league was able to get their act together enough to have a season by themselves. It doesn't make sense to force the USL who seem to be doing quite well, to take on a bunch of teams that they don't want because another league is having issues. While I don't think the USL would sue, that actually be reasonable grounds for a lawsuit against the USSF.
     
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  18. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
    Chicago
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    Right, and they could not file, as they could not gather the pennies for the filing fee.
     
  19. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
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    They were considering filing an anti-trust lawsuit against USSF but decided against it.
     
  20. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    The law of Kessler has been invoked in this thread.

    TANK!

     
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  21. bbsbt

    bbsbt Member+

    Feb 26, 2003
    And people complain that we don't have pro/rel here in America.
     
  22. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

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    The instability of 2nd division is one of many issues as to why pro/rel will never happen the other is lack of MLS level support and infrastructure . Basically all 3 division clubs (excluding the MLS reserve teams) need MLS size stadiums.
     
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  23. soccermilitant

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    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
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    even if they were stable the money they would put into a lawsuit would bankrupt them.
     
  24. lime

    lime Member

    May 18, 2016
    so what are the useful asset teams in NASL?

    Carolina – seems like they'd fit well enough in USL
    Edmonton – likely asset stripping victim
    Fort Lauderdale – likely dead
    Indy – great USL candidate on paper
    Jacksonville – attendance has tanked in year 2, but they seem attractive enough for USL
    Miami – don't seem particularly likely to jump to USL
    Minnesota off to MLS
    Cosmos – who knows
    Ottawa – likely already to USL
    Puerto Rico – not particularly attractive. low attendance, financial issues on island, likely asset stripping victim
    Rayo – dying if not dead
    San Francisco – a bit unknown but intriguing
    Tampa Bay – likely already to USL

    So of the 13 potential NASL clubs for next year, one is already off to MLS. Two are on their death bed. Two are reportedly ready for USL already. Of the remaining eight, two seem like they'd be disinterested in USL, four seem like worthy candidates on paper, and two seem like the type of club you let die, right or wrong.
     
  25. C-Rob

    C-Rob Member

    May 31, 2000
    I doubt that it is a coincidence that Peterson has changed his tack when reportedly NASL's request for DI sanctioning is to be addressed by the USSF this week. Apparently USL's request for DII sanctioning is also on the agenda for that meeting.

    Sounds like that will be a fun meeting.
     

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