Exactly, big college sports programs take coaches from small programs ALL THE TIME...doesn't mean they are competition.
It did. The better NASL players and coaches moved up into MLS, the lesser MLS players and coaches wound up in NASL. Kind if like any other industry where people who outperform move up, but in this case, because NASL was so pure and amazing, it's "poaching", not just the natural evolution of professionals wanting to perform at the highest potential for the highest pay they can earn.
I can't believe those Broadway plays get away with poaching the wait staff from Manhattan restaurants. It should be a crime.
One, are you going to respond to the comments about you from the last few pages before you joined up and started posting. Two, are you getting any compensation, financial or otherwise, from Silva, Commisso, etc.? Only asking because they were doing so much astroturfing surrounding the US Soccer elections...
Too bad. I think many of us appreciate when someone is willing to come in and force us to reexamine and rejustify our understandings and opinions on these matters. Being kept on one's toes is a good thing. But, yeah, showing up with a bunch of echo chamber, conspiracy theory, Twitter fodder isn't a good start. Whenever someone on BigSoccer's first posts are in MLS N&A it usually doesn't end well. MLS N&A is the opposite of Reddit and Twitter. Superficially it can appear the same with plenty of piling on and even groupthink, but most of us are here because we are on the lookout for better understanding, not confirmation bias.
Yeah, he didn't seem like your standard Bro/Rel fan that blindly believes that it'll solve everything. The only thing I can think that would deter him is his possible lack of knowledge of the sport here and its history. Hope he changes his mind and tries to engage us in an honest debate.
Montreal started negotiating with MLS on 2007, 3 years before NASL was formed, which leaves Minnesota as the only "poached" team. There are only 3 teams left in NASL. The teams that signed the LoIs would never have been ready for 2018.
But can we really characterize these as "poached" teams? I thought the selling point for NASL was that it was a collection of independent teams, free to operate as they chose as opposed to MLS' single ownership. Therefore, if one of NASL's independent teams, made the business decision to switch leagues, isn't that in keeping with their central tenant?
BREAKING: Brazil and Real Madrid legend Ronaldo has purchased 51% of Real Valladolid.Full story: https://t.co/B936mZH4Di pic.twitter.com/NjkuP0e5kk— ESPN FC (@ESPNFC) September 3, 2018 So, has he paid the players, coaching staff, back office, front office, vendors, or the local municipality yet in South Florida? There was much fanfare when he became a minority owner of an NASL "Club".
NISA applies for D3. Still no official word on what teams are attached to this league. https://www.soctakes.com/2018/09/04/breaking-nisa-applies-for-d3-sanctioning/
I have been reading excerpts from Jeff Perlman's new USSF book coming out soon. It's downfall seems so much like the NASL, it's scary. Step 1: Get "wealthy" owner in the biggest tv market Step 2: Don't realize that the new owner is only interested in going to the other league Step 3: Try to compete with the other league while ignoring what has worked Step 4: Don't vet new owners and small city owners don't push back Step 5: League collapses as most teams cannot sustain/compete with team of wealthy owner
So you talked to Steven Bank. Wow. Yes, Virginia, everyone on this thread knows who Steven Bank is. As for talking to him, well, he talks to everybody. And talks. And talks. The trick is to get him to shut up. Every goddam time someone writes anything about soccer they talk to Steven Bank. I dont know how Steven Bank has time to do any work other than bloviating about soccer with anyone who will listen. No one has ever been able to explain to me why his opinion matters other than that hes " a lawyer", but lawyers are a dime a dozen on BS. There are six or seven who regularly post on the Crew forum alone. Its interesting that you chose not to write his name, but perhaps its because hes a) not anything like "pro MLS" , as you claim and b) hes a well know pro/rel fanboy. Who, btw, knows pretty much nothing about FIFA and how it operates despite what he pretends. With all due respect, and summoning as much modesty as Im capable of, Ive forgotten more about FIFA than Steven Bank will ever know. But Im always suspicious of posters who want to play the "appeal to authority" card without naming the authority. You figured nobody around here would know who you were talking about. Wrong. Everybody knows who you were talking about.
San Diego 1904 is one, according to the guy running the show now. (Who was and may still be involved with that club.) I have no inside info, but it would make sense in that case that Cal United might be another. (I know they were looking at going to USL's new D3 outfit, which also makes some sense because of Tucson being in the mix already, but I guess all things being equal, they'd go where they think they have the best chance of being part of a decent league.)
Yeah. My bad. I meant to post some of the excerpts as well, but it would probably push this thread towards the politics section.
I like Steven Bank, and I actually think it's quite unbiased rather than being a pro/rel fanboy. Everything else Bill said here is correct. Steven is neither a shadowy sage nor a knee-jerk MLS apologist.
Is there a minimum standard or maximum standard for fail rates that can be used to interpret the phrase 'higher than it should be'? I'm unaware of such an animal.
I thought that, too. Thanks for confirming... Also, I now have a new everyday example to use in the several classes in which I teach confirmation bias.