I'm not forgetting, which is why I said only south OC (which basically identifies with San Diego more for some reason). NASL is targeting Irvine/Santa Ana if I am not mistaken which would be right in the wheelhouse of the OC Blues but not really effect Oceanside.
Sacramento's MSA metro area includes the foothill Counties (Placer, Nevada, El Dorado), which stretch up to Nevada. The core of Sacramento's population resides along the I-5 corridor. Sac is not as dense as the San Diego area, but its ~300/sq mile if IRC (if you exclude the mountains). I did population density studies for my work and dealt with the skewed data from the Sierra Nevada mountains Greater Sacramento's population is spread primarily in Sac County, and Western Placer and El Dorado Counties (and San Joaquin County if your are looking at media market, not MSA/CSA). San Diego is concentrated solely in San Diego County, so they definitely have a higher population density (even higher if you excluded the eastern desert part of the county)
You're starting to split hairs. That many teams in close proximity to each other will cannibalize each other.
Well the converse is also true. I live just south of the 52 and I never really go north of the 56 unless I'm going up to visit friends in LA or going to Lake Elsinore/Temecula.
True they are, but keep in mind that they're putting the OC NASL team in Fullerton at the extreme north end of OC. With the USL OCSC team in central OC as well in Irvine/El Toro. Oceanside is closer to southern OC than Fullerton is. But I agree as it is the USL and NASL sides in OC are going to cannibalize each other. Where I think SD might be different (absent a USL or MLS side mind you) is that an NASL team in North County and an NASL team in the South Bay will have very little cross over. The only location that gets folks from both North and South San Diego County to come is a centralized location between the 52 and around the 94. Anything not in that narrow corridor might as well be in another country. SD is a very split personality place. As was mentioned earlier, those in North County very rarely if ever venture south of the 8 or downtown. And those in the South Bay very rarely travel north of the 56. A team on each end of the county, as appears to be both group's goal, would not have much cannibalization. Question is, would either have enough support given their location. Particularly if USL does drop a team in central SD as they seem poised to do, which would completely undermine both NASL groups IMO and would lead to all 3 cannibalizing each other.
On the plus side of having a team in OC, North SD, and South SD is they will all have a bunch of bus trips, with no overnight stays.
Which was a smart choice (as far as putting a 5th team in the Greater LA area can be considered a smart choice). Puts them reasonably far from OCSC in their new digs at the old MCAS El Toro. And it puts them away from both LAFC and Galaxy. And puts them somewhat on the 91 corridor to the Inland Empire. That said, it means they might not have much appeal for Southern and Western Orange County.
Interesting that the Demba Ba group was originally interested in Atlanta, but were sold on SD after visiting here (our youth soccer and latino population being big draws). Also highlights that the big issue in SD is that we don't have any real venue options in SD County (only Torero and Qualcomm make any sense and the latter is not a long term option). But looks like they're aiming toward the modular stadium option, and he reiterates that they're looking at North County. Looks like they're targeting 2018 spring season, and the way they're talking this sounds like a when, not if, proposition. And Wilt doesn't seem to see MLS as being any kind of impediment. Definitely a different tune than what NASL used to spew.
They are heavily integrated with the OC NASL group http://midfieldpress.com/2017/02/23/exclusive-orange-county-group-closes-in-on-nasl-expansion/
Maybe. Depends on where they're located. Obviously the MLS team is eyeing the heart of the city and county. An NASL team in close proximity would be doomed from the start. But it seems Wilt is smart enough to realize that and isn't risking it looking at the North County modular option as their seeming preferred choice. An NASL team in North County could conceivably co-exist with an MLS team in San Diego proper.
Just glad it's the OC bid and not the SD bid he's involved with. Yan did enough damage to San Diego soccer during his run with the Flash and then his feud with the late Clent Alexander between their two defunct NPSL teams.
Yeah only met him briefly, but he did seem like a good guy who just wanted soccer to succeed in this town. He had some interesting connections too that helped to that end. He just didn't have the financial backing needed to get his vision over the finish line before he passed.
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblo...un/07/hailed-as-a-grower-now-guilty-of-fraud/# Yan Skwara had worked on Wall Street 20 years when he arrived in San Diego a few years back. He called himself a farmer -- a grower of aspragus, aloe vera, and other things. His company was named U.S. Farms, based in Point Loma and Fallbrook. Now the Securities and Exchange Commission has cited him and his company with penny stock securities fraud https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2013/lr22584.htm The Final Judgment orders Defendant Skwara to pay disgorgement in the amount of $28,000, prejudgment interest of $3,372.57 and imposes a civil penalty of $28,000 for a total of $59,372.57. US Farms, Inc. to pay disgorgement in the amount of $28,000 and prejudgment interest of $3,372.57 for a total of $31,372.57.
Well that and as I've heard it told he was one of the issues inside the A-League Flash's ownership that led to their downfall. The remnants of that dispute leading to the beef between the SD Boca and reborn NPSL SD Flash a few years later as both Clent and Yan had been involved with the A-League version of the Flash. It's neither here nor there though as long as Yan stays up in OC with his NASL team and has nothing to do with the North County effort in San Diego along side Wilt and Demba Ba.
Yan's role will remain with the UPSL Wolves and as commissioner of that league per the article. Michael Collins is the point guy for OC NASL. Pete Capriotti is the main investor. Second largest Taco Bell franchisee in California as well as a large franchisee of Wendy's and Pieology.
Mind Soccer Group, confirmed as part of the Ba-Hazard bid in Peter Wilt's interview with Midfield Press, speaks to the local ABC affiliate about their plans for the team and a 5000-7500 seat modular stadium in North County/Oceanside http://www.10news.com/news/group-wants-to-bring-soccer-to-san-diego-with-modular-stadium
Good news. They're being smart about their placement. Just hope they can draw enough from just North County to make a solid go of it.