Napoli - Serie A Game Thread - 2018/2019

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  1. CarecaNapoli

    CarecaNapoli Member+

    Jul 5, 2007
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I don't mind views. But it is personal attacks that are out of line combined with changing and twisting what others say.
     
  2. Euphorius Thor

    SSC NapoliS
    Slovakia
    Jul 14, 2017
    #552 Euphorius Thor, Apr 24, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2019
    Too weird to live, too rare to die. Anyway, I do not really think I am that weird, as many identical and similar opinions have been voiced for millennia, for there have always been many who have refused to deny the multifarious damaging aspects of the new, modern system. I have found support for my beliefs in minds like Carl Sagan, Leopold Tolstoy(in his old age), or, to go even further back in time, Jesus Christ himself. Those were people who advocated love, reason, and potential for all. I am not saying that all smart people agree with what I believe or suppose. What I AM saying is that those of them who would have protested against greedy aristocracy even if they were born that fortunate, i.e. as aristocrats, such as the people above, agree with many of the things that I have to say. Tolstoy actually wrote banned books on the subject, not denying that in his youth he was a hypocritical rich bastard just like any of them. And people were suffering, people were dying, for what? To make the rich richer.

    Nowadays the inability of people to live a life of their own is capitalized on. Instead of teaching those who lack in knowledge, we use their ignorance to profit from them, providing for them the fruit of that knowledge for money. I have read into a lot of societal subjects, though I prefer the natural sciences, and I know too much about the evils of the system within the boundaries of which we have been trapped. I always make sure to verify my own assumptions with other people, and what at first appeared surprising to me was that often there was no real necessity to assume, for what had happened was clear and there was no need to really hide it, though the facts were hideous. That's just how dominantly the ideology of the system has been taught to the people.

    The real damage is, of which many scientists are now aware of, that we have forgotten the importance of failure as a race of intelligent beings. But isn't failure just as important as success, especially in the field of science? From the point of view of the capitalist, it is not, and this has brought about so many problems that it is indeed sad and sorrowful.

    I have written very little in this post, for it is difficult to organize the thoughts in writing, especially for no other reason than to salvage at least the last bits of my sanity in the eyes of some people here. The bottom line of it all is that I am not the only person who has realized the importance of being selfless, and the danger of being selfish, as a race. The second line on the bottom of the thought is even more important - I have only spoken my mind, I have only expressed myself. I don't think it is that weird, especially with the support that I know there is available. Furthermore, before capitalism it should have been democracy, so I think I can do this, even though I run the risk of being referred to as a weird little fella. But in the end, it does not mean much. Even Carl Sagan was called a socialist by an interviewer, solely because he had said that according to his opinion homeless people should be educated to see if there are some good ideas brewing in their heads, in order to cure disease or save the planet, anything. That is no real freedom of expression, that is a fake.

    What about sweatshops? How much of our human potential is lost on account of the fact that the poor children must work to make the rich or middle-class children wear 500 t-shirts a year and to make companies profitable? That lost potential already IS wreaking havoc, for many of the unhealthy might have been healed, and many of our environmental problems might have been solved already, which will now perhaps take decades to solve. We are engaged in a race with time, that is obvious to all. But I am not an idealist, I realize that we will fight for our beliefs forever, and most probably we will end up dead and buried without seeing any of them realized, perhaps they will never become possible. However, I find it imperative to at least state the facts as they are, and to express my disapproval.

    I do not find your argument plausible, because in my mind it should not be imperative that he who is supported by thousands of people should automatically become rich. That is a very dangerous conviction, that is what made Justin Bieber rich.That is what made Hitler powerful.

    But that does not belong here, I have only felt the necessity to express myself a bit because I feel the ideology of today is getting out of hand, and because in this case my thoughts are related to the topic of this forum, which is Napoli. I thought to myself that since we had come to it, I might as well share with you a bit of my personality so that we can get to know one another a bit.

    I swear to God this is my last long post here, from this point onwards I will always opt for brevity and clarity. I also swear to God that I love all people, but just like good ol' Jesus, I don't really like most of them.
     
  3. CarecaNapoli

    CarecaNapoli Member+

    Jul 5, 2007
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Calm down my friend.

    Don’t leave. This is a football forum. Everyone writes a paragraph. You write philosophical essays. That’s all.

    Stay. We need Napoli fans here.
     
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  4. Sacki

    Sacki Member+

    Aug 23, 2015
    Denmark
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    I'm from Denmark, you don't think I share the same beliefs? I was just stating, just like yourself, the current state of the world. Having followers means everything in today's world.

    I actually enjoy reading your philosophical posts, I enjoy the references and the fact they force me to think.
    I'd take weird a 1000 times over ordinary...
    And you are weird, never have I seen someone like you on a football forum - how is that a negative thing?
     
  5. Sacki

    Sacki Member+

    Aug 23, 2015
    Denmark
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    I think most of us are calm tbh. We are just disappointed with the team and the season.
     
  6. CarecaNapoli

    CarecaNapoli Member+

    Jul 5, 2007
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I am not even upset. Until ADL owns the club it is hard to see us win anything.

    I am just happy if we build a stadium.
     
  7. tripwire

    tripwire Member+

    Sep 23, 2012
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Euphorius Thor,

    Just keep being you. Don't stop writing what you feel.
     
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  8. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well all and all we could have it alot worse.... We could be like teams like Genoa that will never win shit in a 100 years.
     
  9. Insigne4BalonD'or

    SSC Napoli
    Italy
    Apr 6, 2017
    In Hiding with Sal's mom
    I did not intend to come off in a rude manner.

    I apologize if I have offended you and I hope that you continue to post here.
     
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  10. Euphorius Thor

    SSC NapoliS
    Slovakia
    Jul 14, 2017
    Thanks guys. I love Napoli and I love it here as well, but after I had finished reading your post, I thought it would be good to elaborate a bit, as I didn't want you to think I'm just a hater who likes screaming because it feels good, if you get my drift. I also wasn't sure as to where your beliefs or opinions lie.

    I wasn't offended and I do not want to leave here, for the reasons stated in the 2nd sentence of the 1st paragraph. I always try to be humbled rather than offended, even if I believe that I have been wronged. I believe it is healthy to ponder a thing or two together, as we are all connected by both the thread of fanhood and that of humanity, and we have also lost a whole lot of excitement to fuel our usual discussions about upcoming games or anything related to Napoli, for that matter. Who knows, perhaps we will meet one day, and we will have more to ricochet off than the color of our outbursts after a bad game, or a good one. We will know a bit about our real nature, who we are in life in general.

    What I meant was that I will try to write sth like the previous post when it befits the occasion, because I know damn well that sts I try to force it, which is mostly counter-productive.
     
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  11. RichardBarker

    RichardBarker Member

    NAPOLI
    Indonesia
    Apr 29, 2018
    All is good Euphorius. I know you love Napoli even though we don't always agree and honestly, sometime I don't even understand what you are writing. But all is good. This is our small little universe to share our ideas and thoughts among non-italian speaking fans. I do wish our community is larger though. There are so few of us here.
     
  12. Euphorius Thor

    SSC NapoliS
    Slovakia
    Jul 14, 2017
    Well, right now, Napoli isn't exactly a bait for new fans. However, with those around the discussion could actually deteriorate rather than improve, so I am kind of happy with the situation here as it is. Of course I am ready to welcome anyone, but increased membership does not always mean better discussion.
     
  13. CarecaNapoli

    CarecaNapoli Member+

    Jul 5, 2007
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I don't want fans that come because of success.

    You need to love the club, whatever your reason.
     
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  14. Sacki

    Sacki Member+

    Aug 23, 2015
    Denmark
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Well, you and I might as well leave then. We have been exposed. They're not gonna be happy hearing about this at the "Fake Fans Club".
     
  15. RichardBarker

    RichardBarker Member

    NAPOLI
    Indonesia
    Apr 29, 2018
    You don't love the club. You only love the ex-Coach.

    Exactly. Pack up and leave. Both of you. And don't let the door slam you.
     
  16. Bedelcigil

    Bedelcigil Member+

    Aug 21, 2014
    Cyprus
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    ciroooooooo from freekick
     
  17. Sacki

    Sacki Member+

    Aug 23, 2015
    Denmark
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    You have no arguments, you don't understand football, I have never seen you make an accurate prediction or say something intelligent - stick to curling.

    When I say what's literally wrong with Ancelotti's terrible tactic, people start getting personal. Stop being angry because I was right about this manager from the start... If Sarri was called stubborn or dogmatic (by ignorants), then what the hell is this guy? Stubborn with a terrible system?

    Tactically we have a massive gap in the center of the pitch good teams will always utilize - especially with the players we have in midfield.
    And that's just our main problem - we have so many more.
     
  18. Euphorius Thor

    SSC NapoliS
    Slovakia
    Jul 14, 2017
    Is Callejon cognizant of matter and its properties? It seems to me that he is not, for I have seen him shoot and hit a defender right in front of him at least a million time.
     
  19. Euphorius Thor

    SSC NapoliS
    Slovakia
    Jul 14, 2017
    We should wait. We the people often disregard pieces of information or evidence if it does not fit our final conclusion.There is, in fact, one major thing that is very different from Sarri's season and the 1st part of Carlo's season as well. It is the apparent lack of central defenders due to injury. Sarri had 3 able defenders in Vlad, Raul, and Kalidou. Carlo had to go with Maksimovic or Luperto, where the former likes to complain when we concede more than actually trying to prevent it, and the latter is rather inexperienced. Not having a good central duo is a big problem, and we all know how the result affects the final opinion on the performance in a given game of even the most objective spectators.
     
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  20. Euphorius Thor

    SSC NapoliS
    Slovakia
    Jul 14, 2017
    We played a good game today, but after the chasm between our perf against Roma and Arsenal, I find very difficult to consider victories in SA of any real value in terms of determining the progress of the team. We still haven't fixed one of our greatest flaws, we are still ineffective. Against Fronisone where we had a lot of chances, it means nothing. However, against better opponents it was and will be decisive, unless we become so good that those better opponents will be like Frosinone faced with us.
     
  21. RichardBarker

    RichardBarker Member

    NAPOLI
    Indonesia
    Apr 29, 2018
    Happy to see a win finally. Even if it's against Frosinone.

    This season we have been plagued with injuries. Not an excuse but definitely affecting the team performance. Fortunately Carlo rotates so the other players can pick up the slack.

    I think the Roma game is not indicative as Roma played very badly in that match. I still think it's a mental thing. Against Arsenal, we have to deliver a result, hence the screw up. This takes time to fix.
     
  22. RichardBarker

    RichardBarker Member

    NAPOLI
    Indonesia
    Apr 29, 2018
    #572 RichardBarker, Apr 28, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2019
    Actually it is you that knows nothing while trying to pretend that you are an "expert". Empty cans beating the most noise and you are just manifesting your bias and idiocracy for all to read here. Even with a win, you still want to find things to criticize Ancelotti.

    Simple put, all you do here is worship Sarri and find fault with Ancelotti. There is nothing of substance in your posts. And if your gloom and doom prediction early of the season has came true, we should have have been mid-table by now. I admit the team is in bad form now and we have mental issues ( been so for years and years ) but seeing the season as a whole until now, you still cannot argue against the fact that we are still #2 in Serie A and we did better in Europe.

    Frankly, it's no point to argue with idiots like you. I have already done so, you have been exposed and I already make all the points clear which you have no rebuttal. I am not going to continue to descend to your level of stupidity in order to engage with you and reply your comments. Now you are back on the ignore list.
     
  23. RichardBarker

    RichardBarker Member

    NAPOLI
    Indonesia
    Apr 29, 2018
    Best way to deal with idiots...
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  24. Euphorius Thor

    SSC NapoliS
    Slovakia
    Jul 14, 2017
    Richard, if I may be so bold as to offer you advice, I must say that you are neither funny nor correct in your assumptions. There is not a single person on Earth that is infallible, and for that reason I would not support your stance even if you had argued against pedophiles, for it is really difficult for me to listen to anyone who can neither allow for his own errors nor let things slide after being nicely asked to do so. There is no point to this kind of behavior, for even if they were what you paint them out to be, this is not the way to convince them of the truth, if there is any such way. Therefore, you are wasting the time of all concerned in the matter.
     
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  25. Sacki

    Sacki Member+

    Aug 23, 2015
    Denmark
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    #575 Sacki, Apr 28, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2019
    If you count the Arsenal games with "Europe" then no, we got embarrassed, for the entire world to see. We are no one's darling anymore, the football we play simply don't cater to that.

    Again with the personal attacks. I don't wanna stoop down to your level, but I have, it is simply too hard not to - are you just trolling?

    Why should I blindly just support Ancelotti? He is the highest earning outlet we have, yet there have been no improvements whatsoever. The football we played earlier in the season, looked too Sarri or should I say "Hamsik" for me to believe Ancelotti had orchestrated that.

    I get angry because I want this club to deliver - objectively Ancelotti has not created the same euphoria Sarri did - nowhere near to be exact.

    There is nothing substantial in my posts?
    I am clearly outlining our defensive incapabilities as well as our biggest problem imo, transition play, we cannot for the life of us counter-attack (on a CL level) once the ball has been won, due to not having enough passing options for the player intercepting the ball - if you can't see that, I can't help you.
    The two striker thing is killing our build up, especially since Milik who is the number 9, cannot take adequate runs or drop down and build up - we are asking the world from the player next to him, something that just isn't realistic.

    Take the Arsenal games; Insigne had to make the runs, put pressure on the deep midfielders and drop down and create? This is just not realistic. Hey, maybe the problem is Milik and Mertens' physical limitations to be the main striker? What do I know? I'm not the one making the transfer calls, however, I am in fact allowed to do observations and the way I perceive things is we are just not good enough on that number 9 position to play this system - Milik is not good enough and Mertens is a false 9/midfielder. It works against weak teams though, I can admit to that.
    We also lack a true orchestrator in midfield.

    And what in God's name is happening to our fullbacks? They never seem to get forwards anymore.
     
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