Mueller indictment thread

You should probably build a Man Fort to do it in...

 

A discussion for the lawyers

A post from Governor Bullock. Is a pardon for Stone an impeachable offense or is he just pandering? The way I see it, a president can definitely abuse the pardon power just like a president can abuse any power of the office. I don't necessarily agree that pardoning Roger Stone would be impeachable though.

Having said that, if Trump told Stone to lie about everything and not worry about it because Trump would pardon him if he (Stone) was convicted of obstruction/perjury, then yeah it can be impeachable.

Is that about right?

If Trump pardons Roger Stone, it should be considered as another count in the impeachment proceedings. Abuse of power cannot provide shelter for lawlessness.

— Steve Bullock (@GovernorBullock) November 15, 2019

I am adding the pic so people who are not on Twitter can see.

 

Here's what George Mason and James Madison said about that while debating ratification of the Constitution:

From this article on the topic:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/hist...rdons-were-hotly-debated-by-founding-fathers/

 

File under “not aged well”

 

Will he oblige?

Roger Stone’s daughter asks Trump to pardon her father on Tucker Carlson pic.twitter.com/pO5RtkQhGh

— Acyn (@Acyn) November 16, 2019

 

Mueller: "Will do, thank you"

Jury: "Roger Stone, you are going down for the count.
Enjoy prison.
I hope that Nixon tattoo serves you well, asshole."

 

Lol. "Nobody deserves this." Well your fckface daddy certainly does. Donnie's your only hope now, lady. Good luck.

 

Trump will pardon him.

If not, he'll get ten years, a bible and his hair stroked at the sentencing

 

Yeah I think most of these inside ratf'ers like Stone & Rudy got assurances years ago that they'd be covered. Stone looks completely undisturbed by his conviction.

 

Now he's free to run for the Senate

 

Killary cultists, obviously...

The two correctional officers on duty the night Jeffrey Epstein died were indicted on Tuesday. #wtp2020 #wtp2020Sulli https://t.co/Roz7nPREnk

— AMHotFlash☮️🕊️🇺🇦🟧 (@AMHotFlash) November 19, 2019

 

Two big cases start today

Epstein Accuser against Dershowitz

Parnas and Fruman in the afternoon.

Starting a separate thread for the Parnas/Fruman hearing, which starts in roughly 30 minutes.

I'll be covering it live for @CourthouseNews. https://t.co/iAP8bvkrt3

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) December 2, 2019

 

Yep. You noticed they haven't said a word. Killary runs a tight ship. Any and all criminals who work for Trump can't help but to open their yaps.

 

Good Authority is actually another Trump hire running his yap.

 

Rick Gates sentenced to not partying on weekends:

BREAKING U.S. judge sentences Rick Gates to 45 days in prison, to be served on weekends or at time of his agreement with federal officials over three year term of probation.

— Spencer Hsu (@hsu_spencer) December 17, 2019

 

That looks more like he is grounded.

 

Unsurprisingly, Hannity was Manaforts back channel to Trump

Paul Manafort said he used Fox News host Sean Hannity to receive backchannel messages from President Donald Trump while prosecutors investigated him for financial crimes, according to newly released memos from former special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.

Among the several hundred pages of memos published by BuzzFeed News on Thursday, which contain summaries of FBI interviews with key Trump administration and campaign officials, the Fox News anchor’s alleged role as an unofficial messenger between the president and his former campaign chairman comes into sharp focus.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/paul-manafort-said-sean-hannity-served-as-his-trump-backchannel-docs

 

Aiming for Presidential pardon, huh?

Since he spilled some beans already, I doubt Don Cheeto would offer that to him.

 

That has to be the plan though.....

 

I thought you had to admit guilt to get a pardon, does the guilty plea not do that - he probably just thinks he can get away without punishment by going to trial. Or get a good plea deal, we do tend to do justice by plea deal- though usually mostly for poorer people than Flynn..

 

Nixon didn't admit guilt of anything before getting a pardon.

 

Nixon wasn't convicted of anything.

Ford, AFAIK, invented the concept of the preemptory pardon, so that "our long national nightmare" could be over without the Republicans having to watch a President of theirs go to trial.

Which, of course, just allowed denial to continue and the nightmare to extend well into the new millennium...