Mr. Josmer Volmy Altidore

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by 50/50 Ball, Aug 22, 2016.

  1. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
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    Nope, Larin may or may not be going to Besiktas. Jozy played for Bursaspor.
     
  2. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
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    Which is it, mediocre speed or slow? Earlier you said he was slow, now he has been upgraded to mediocre?

    This is where the internet gets weird, when people argue about things that aren't actually in debate. He is fast enough to the point where it is never a point of complaint in his game. Where are you watching the games where his speed is an issue? I see defenders hanging back, respecting his speed and I see him beating guys on balls played into space.

    He was bad in the EPL but it wasn't for lack of speed. Lots of ways to be bad and fast.
     
  3. 50/50 Ball

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    Sep 6, 2006
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    Does he seem too slow on this recent goal? He is running with noted speedster Joevin Jones there.
     
  4. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
     
  5. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Both of those defenders are clearly gaining on Jozy in this video.
     
  6. 50/50 Ball

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    Sep 6, 2006
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    And so what? Jones is widely known for his speed. In a sprint, Jozy was fast enough to get where he wanted be to shoot and to do so under control.

    How do you argue that Jozy is slow in good faith?
     
  7. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
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    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fast:

    Pulisic
    Yedlin
    Morris


    Not Fast:

    Jozy
    Bradley
     
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  8. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Oh, I thought it was all wrapped up.
     
  9. 50/50 Ball

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    You are moving the goalposts from the original claim that JA is not fast enough to be a decent PL forward to, he isn't as fast as our fastest players. That was never my claim.

    As I said, the internet is at its worst when people argue over stuff that isn't in question.
     
  10. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
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    United States
    I didn't respond to a goalpost. I responded to your post.

    Posting an opinion and blaming the internet when people disagree is a curious tactic.

    I didn't even disagree actually. I gave my examples of fast and not fast players.
     
  11. 50/50 Ball

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    Read the rest of the conversation. I have been consistent.

    I mention the internet because I doubt we would have such choppy conversation live.
     
  12. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I doubt he makes the 2022 tournament. He will be our record goalscorer, just hope it comes in a worthy game rather than a winter friendly against Guatemala.

    It's amazing how he's still only 28. He could have achieved so much for us in regards to past strikers (Wynalda/Max-Moore,McBride,Mathis,EJ,Davies).
     
  13. 50/50 Ball

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  14. Three and Three

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  15. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    The goal highlighted his great strength as a ball-to-feet forward.
     
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  16. laxcoach

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    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
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    He's perfect for the MLS. Discuss.
     
  17. 50/50 Ball

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    Sep 6, 2006
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    True. He was also probably tied with Bradley as the best player on the field against the Liga MX champ.
     
  18. 50/50 Ball

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    That was a pretty seeet goal, especially in context of the time and score.

    Jozy is ridiculously clutch for TFC.
     
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  19. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    More to the point, TFC play to Jozy's strength. It's a pity Feilhaber was black-balled: Jozy could have fed off his creativity.
     
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  20. 50/50 Ball

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    Sep 6, 2006
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    Vanney definitely puts him and Bradley in position to shine.

    Coaching clearly matters.
     
  21. Excellency

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    Nov 4, 2011
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Jozy is running under control which is more important than speed measured in a straight line.
     
  22. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Hopefully, Bradley and Jozy will stay with TFC and away from USMNT. Everyone wins!
     
  23. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Tell me more about the interplay between "running under control" and "speed measured in a straight line."
     
  24. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Do I get paid?
     
  25. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paid, Bigly!
     

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