Move the date of the MLS Cup Final

Discussion in 'MLS: Commissioner - You be The Don' started by shizzle787, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. shizzle787

    shizzle787 Member

    Apr 27, 2015
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Currently it is on a Sunday at 4 pm, smack in the same time frame as the NFL. Big mistake. Here is how I would change it. I would move the game to the same Saturday in December (usually the second one) as the Army-Navy game, which ends at around 7:00. I would schedule the game for 8:00. That particular weekend there is no NFL on Saturday (or college football other than Army-Navy), most college basketball schools either don't play (due to final exams) or play bad out-of-conference games, and the NBA is more of a Wed-Fri-Sun thing.
     
  2. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    You might want to email Don@mls.com I bet no one has thought of this idea.
     
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  3. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NCAA Football: Army-Navy, Heisman presentation
    NCAA Basketball last Saturday (date of Army-Navy): 14 top 25 games involving 15 ranked teams as well as Wichita St. UCLA, Tennessee, Arizona State, Texas, Oregon State, and Florida.
    NBA Basketball: 9 games
    NHL Hockey: 10 games
    MMA: A little UFC fight you might have heard about

    So while you might have a good idea, it really loses something when you can't be bothered to do basic research (you can see all the scores for sports going back a long way on ESPN) and instead say something blatantly wrong when you try to make your point.
     
  4. shizzle787

    shizzle787 Member

    Apr 27, 2015
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NHL doesn't do big-time national television (except for NBC) so it is not really a factor. Like I said, the NBA is a major factor on Wed-Fri-Sun as far as TV is concerned. Saturday is NOT a national TV day for the NBA. You proved my point with college basketball: there was only one matchup of two top-25 teams, even if 13 other top-25 teams played cupcakes (aka not great games). I forgot about the Heisman presentation, but most people only watch for the selection, they don't care about the theatrics before, and the Heisman is getting less important every year. Finally, MMA is pay-per-view event with a niche market.
     
  5. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    UCLA and Florida are cupcake teams now? Ok then....
     
  6. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #6 The Devil's Architect, Dec 17, 2015
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    9 words that when included in any post, you know the OP is a jagoff
     
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  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on @Mr. Warmth, you can use the quote feature better than that. ;)
     
  8. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Better?

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think NBA TV has a national TV game on Saturdays, albeit with NBA TV not in as many homes as ESPN, ABC, and TNT that show NBA games. As for the college basketball, the original poster proposed MLS Cup at 8:00 P.M., and here are games with a ranked team that started at 6:00 P.M. or later on Saturday December 12:

    Florida vs. Michigan State at 6:00 P.M.
    Oregon vs. Boise State at 7:00 P.M.
    Oregon State vs. Kansas at 8:00 P.M.
    UCLA vs. Gonzaga at 10:00 P.M.

    As for the Heisman, would it have been a good lead-in for MLS Cup to be right after the Hesiman presentation?
     
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fox were showing paid programming between 1 and 3 pm the day before the Cup Final. Great opportunity missed.
     
  11. Initial B

    Initial B Member

    Jan 29, 2014
    Club:
    Ottawa Fury
    Make the MLS cup on the Friday or Saturday right after Thanksgiving.
     
  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Opposite championships for major conferences? I doubt ESPN/FOX will be willing to give up the airtime.
     
  13. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's lots of sports in America. There's no free weekend. They all suck.

    The day isn't hurting our ratings, the impression of our league is.
     
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  14. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, not with CFB ratings
     
  15. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even before MLS existed, it was often claimed that the dates of the the MLB All-Star break were the only days of the year with no major professional team sport playing competitive games in the US.

    Schedule MLS Cup any day of the year, it'll go head to head with a big sporting event.
     
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  16. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9 games means 18 NBA teams played that day -- that's the majority of the league. Teams tend to play a game every 2-3 days, so any day with a majority of the league playing is a heavier-than-average day for the NBA.
     
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  17. shizzle787

    shizzle787 Member

    Apr 27, 2015
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not the number of games played, its the coverage they receive. For example, the ESPN/ABC deal has Wednesday/Friday night games and Sunday afternoon games, and TNT has Sunday night games. Saturday night is more of an NBA TV (much fewer homes have this) and regional sports network (like CSN "pick your choice") night.
     
  18. shizzle787

    shizzle787 Member

    Apr 27, 2015
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only two games that would likely interfere with an MLS Cup final would be the middle two, and not many people outside of Oregon would watch Oregon basketball. Kansas is a bigger draw, no doubt, but Oregon St. is not very good at basketball, hence most non-Kansas fans would expect a blowout.
     
  19. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Friday and Saturday after Thanksgiving had rivalry games such as Florida State and Florida and Alabama at Auburn. The conference championship games were the week after that.

    I think Oregon, Oregon State, and Boise State are at the more popular end of the 351 Division I schools, but I agree that they probable are not among the 25 most popular. I only listed games with ranked teams and it's possible for an unranked team to have more fans than a ranked team.
     
  20. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right, sorry. So even worse. Good luck getting FOX/ESPN to give up any time for MLS on rivalry weekend.
     
  21. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Or soccer fans could just, ya know, choose to watch soccer instead of football.
     
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  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No-one anywhere else in the world will ever understand why so many American sports fans are passionate about teenage amateurs playing for colleges that most of them never attended. It's a unique culture.
     
  23. shizzle787

    shizzle787 Member

    Apr 27, 2015
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In my case (and in the case of most people that come from Connecticut), UConn athletics represent our sports "club" so to speak: they are our professional team, as Connecticut has no true professional team.
     
  24. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You haven't lived in Texas, have you? High school football is the state's dominant religion.
     
  25. chungachanga

    chungachanga Member

    Dec 12, 2011
    A sneaky "WNBA is not a real league" post.
     

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