Monday 27 Jan 2020

Cascadia draw European Champions in ConIFA World Cup group
https://www.prostamerika.com/2020/0...n-champions-in-conifa-world-cup-group/236797/

 

Not only is "Cascadia" not an MLS entity - as one might think was significant in the "MLS News" thread - "Cascadia" isn't even a FIFA entity, and ConIFA is not a FIFA confederation.

In fact, ConIFA is a tournament for stateless entities, representing mostly minorities who are struggling for national recognition, like the Romani people, Kurdistan, South Ossetia, the Tamil, Tibet, etc. It's a truly noble undertaking, helping maintain a sense of community for lost and oppressed peoples,and providing opportunities for players who in most cases wouldn't be allowed anywhere near the national team in the country where they reside due to discrimination, racism and/or ethnic bias.

In fact of course, the reason why ConIFA and it's constituent members are not part of FIFA - they would love to be, actually - is that the countries where they reside or have been chased out of would freak out and carpet bomb Zurich. Just try to get Tibet recognized as a FIFA confed, for example, and see what happens. Is "Cascadia" a subject province, suffering under the jackboot of military occupation, or just a bunch of dope smoking shitheads?

For a bunch of empty-headed jackasses in the imaginary Kingdom of Cascadia to enter this rather courageous effort is arrogant, intellectually insulting and obscene.

And it certainly has no place in a moderated MLS forum.

 

Their favorite indie brewery just got bought out by InBev. Have some empathy for their plight, Bill.

 

Former MLS player James Riley captained the team in London 2018:
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/05/24/james-riley-mls-conifa-world-football-cup-cascadia

Also another former MLS player Sainey Nyassi, has been recently called up:
https://twitter.com/CascadiaSoccer/status/1137570047847649281

Team also features players who were in some of the Cascadian MLS team's academies.

OK boomer...

In fact (since you like facts and overuse "in fact" a lot)...You probably have no idea but Cascadia was a founding member of ConIFA having previously been unanimously accepted by the member FAs you mentioned into it's predecessor, the N.F.-Board following a representative visiting Cascadia to assess the validity of its application to join.

That is even cited in this academic paper on Cascadia: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs...scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=fsas20

And from this interview with Sascha Duerkop, ConIFA's General Secretary: https://thesetpieces.com/world-football/world-football-cup-forgotten-nations/


“I had no idea where Cascadia is or what it’s all about, but I did some research and presented the application because I had nothing better to do that week and it was a good excuse for a trip to Munich.”

At the board meeting, he met the other teams involved and presented Cascadia’s case. While that event ultimately proved disastrous, collapsing due to infighting, from the ashes rose CONIFA, which was founded shortly after in June 2013 on the Isle of Man.

The six founding members have since expanded to nearly 50, with the shared aim of organising matches and tournaments for unrepresented people, nations, and isolated regions around the world.

You also misunderstand what ConIFA is all about. Rather than give you a long winded response simply watch this video where a representative from ConIFA talks about Yorkshire's involvement and why teams like Yorkshire, Monaco, Cascadia, Quebec, Hawai'i etc are in ConIFA and a value to the organization. Not every place or people represented by ConIFA is in the same situation. The host of this show posed a similar question about Yorkshire which just joined ConIFA. ConIFA's answer is that you and the host have a common misunderstanding that that is all that the tournament is about. Teams from those situations don't want to just play each other but test themselves in a broader context:



Additionally from: http://theconversation.com/conifa-h...g-unrecognised-nations-through-football-98104

CONIFA is relatively new, and currently operates in the margins – scaled somewhere between “mega” and “minor”. Consequently, though the journalist Steve Menary has outlined the history of organised football for unrecognised countries, recent events have not yet been subject to significant scholarly scrutiny.

Though academic research specifically on CONIFA is limited, two geographers at Portland State University in Oregon have looked at the Cascadia region (the US states of Oregon and Washington, and the Canadian province of British Columbia). Their work examines how football has mobilised a shared regional narrative either side of the Canada–US border.

I could say that what you've said is very ignorant and insulting because well, it is.

It does when MLSSoccer.com and SkySports covers it.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/05/24/james-riley-mls-conifa-world-football-cup-cascadia

https://www.skysports.com/football/...ready-for-conifa-world-football-cup-challenge

So perhaps since MLS's own site has covered Cascadia and Quebec's ConIFA teams and perhaps since these News threads cover everything from former MLS players actions and interests in retirement to random celebrities which like soccer you should stop trying to censor a topic just because you have a problem with the existence of Cascadia and a bias against all things Cascadian. Stand down my friend. I have provided links with info to debunk the ignorant views you put forth towards ConIFA and Cascadia's involvement. Feel free to put your ego aside and click them to become a bit more educated before commenting on it again in the future.

As for the football, for those curious on their first attempt in 2018 without having ever played a game together Cascadia did surprisingly well. After getting out of the group they were a dark horse to win it all according to Goal.com: https://www.goal.com/en/news/conifa...scadia-the-teams-to/411zlfrnbq3n14fyxfdzs98oc

People are saying Cascadia's group is the Group of Death because they are seen as a very strong team in non-FIFA representative football and they are considered one of the teams which could win the 2020 ConIFA World Cup.

 

There is so much stupid in there that the mind boggles, and life is too short.

 

When some have a problem with facts they just dismiss them... "Reeee! stupid facts!" Do your homework next time my friend.

 

We just had the link up from him on Bodyarmour for MLS irrc, last week. Herc asking in Spanish and Kobe speaking right back to him on Chich signing with MLS. Kobe loved the beautiful game. RIP #24.

 

I like that this quote is being used to establish that the speaker is an authority and that Cascadia is a thing.

 

I support anybody who wants to play the beautiful game. Doesn't matter to me what their reasons are or where they come from.

 

Well, how's your day going so far?

 

I agree.

Though I also don't mind poking fun at Pacific Northwest levels of self-importance.

 

Hey, Cascadia is a "distinct society" or something like that.

But at least the guy who wanted to go to Munich could identify Ukraine on a map, instead of Bangladesh, right?

 

I was going to make a joke posting that Bella Ciao is Cascadia's National Anthem. But apparently it's no joke.



Frankly, the Red Army Choir does a better rendition.

 

Maybe 30 years ago. Now its just homogenized tech culture.

 

This forum has barely any conversation anyway, specially at these times. I see no problem that some posted an article about it together with 11 articles MLS related. I enjoy this threads because they gather together interesting news.

I guess you have no problem with the stadium thread talking about if the Crew is or is not an expansion team, because somehow is MLS related (although not stadium related) That's en even more worthless discussion.

But well, thanks to your grumpyness this thread already has more than 10 replies, good for discussion.

 

While after the events of last summer up here, I'd enthusiastically support Bella Ciao as the Cascadia anthem, we've already had one. And it's a pretty good one written by a guy who has done a lot of good work up here.

O' Cascadia was written by notable Cascadia bioregionalist Lloyd Vivola: https://cascadiafootball.org/blog/2018/6/2/our-cascadia-anthem-ocascadia

An orchestral version of it was adapted and played at the 2018 ConIFA World Cup:


Prior to departing Lloyd wished the team well and was proud that this version of his song which highlights the beauty and shared vision of the values of Cascadia became the official anthem

 

No.

https://soundcloud.com/sarahlleach/conifa-tamil-eelam-vs-cascadia
https://cascadiaunderground.org/a-toast-around-a-table-unites-around-the-globe

 

I think your comment generated more posts than the initial post would have on its own.

 

The Striesand effect is real.

 

As far as I can tell, the one thing that links Cascadia is the insane property values.

Also, is it too soon for fish puns, or should we go straight into a discussion about WWII tanks?

 

@Bill Archer is my real dad

 

Sorry, that Canadian joke must have soared over your head.

For my next trick, I will correctly translate the phrase "Holy smoke! Hand me a serviette, I dropped my poutine on the chesterfield!"

 

I think Bill Archer should be impeached for this. There's definitely some 'squid pro quo' going on here.