Monchi See Monchi Do

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  1. Java65

    Java65 Member+

    Oct 2, 2012
    North Carolina
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure why people are down on JJ. When called upon (except when stupidly asked to play RB) he's been solid. He's never going to be exceptional but he's good enough the play as an emergency starter... he just needs games.
     
  2. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
    Club:
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    #202 La Magica, Feb 20, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2018
    He does have brain farts but id love to see him get a steady run of games before giving up on him. 7 million imo is not bad at all for at the worse a high level league player. He could also be considered international level. I don't think he would look out of place if he did pull on a jersey. So all in all its not a bad squad player for the age and money.
     
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  3. Hustle and Flow

    Hustle and Flow Member+

    Roma
    Feb 19, 2018
    Canada
    It's not that I'm down on him , it's that I think we can do better. If he turns it around, or improves significantly in the next year , I'll change my tune.

    I don't trust his decision making.
     
  4. Hustle and Flow

    Hustle and Flow Member+

    Roma
    Feb 19, 2018
    Canada
    No, not a bad squad player , but if we get a younger CB to be our 4th guy, I'm almost certain the plan will be for him to surpass Jesus first , then to eventually steal a starting place.

    It depends on a lot of factors , but if we can flip the guy in a year , I would.

    Obviously if Manolas moves on, this entire line of thinking changes.
     
  5. Java65

    Java65 Member+

    Oct 2, 2012
    North Carolina
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's too bad Fazio doesn't have JJ's or Manolas' wheels because then he'd be a world class CB.
     
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  6. Goduerza

    Goduerza Member+

    Jun 13, 2008
    Bulgaria
    Club:
    AS Roma
    If we do end up selling Alisson and Inter don't make top 4, perhaps we could convince a certain Samir to come over to Rome. He's still got it, hasn't he?
     
  7. Hustle and Flow

    Hustle and Flow Member+

    Roma
    Feb 19, 2018
    Canada
    Haha good luck with that. Maybe we can give them Dzeko after they sell Icardi.
     
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  8. Salmeen10

    Salmeen10 Member+

    Jan 10, 2014
    Bahrain
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    The problem with Jesus is his salary, its too expensive for a bench player. He earns over 2M after taxes.
     
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  9. Hustle and Flow

    Hustle and Flow Member+

    Roma
    Feb 19, 2018
    Canada
    After taxes? Oh have mercy....

    Walter... why must you be like that?
     
  10. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Ok that makes a difference. Yes its too high if he is to remain a player in and out of the line up. As I said id like to see him given a long run of games but. it probably won't work out for him.
     
  11. Wolfbeatseagle

    Wolfbeatseagle Member+

    May 7, 2007
    The Bermuda Tetrahedron
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As long as we're not subjected to him at RB ever again, I'm fine with 2 mil net for Jesus. He's solid and versatile.
     
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  12. Vulpinous

    Vulpinous Moderator
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    Mar 15, 2007
    Jersey Shore
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    He’s more of a 2.5m gross guy
     
  13. Java65

    Java65 Member+

    Oct 2, 2012
    North Carolina
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's looking like Florenzi will start. DDR, Strootman and Ninja in CM playing a 4-2-3-1

    Alisson
    Florenzi, Manolas, Fazio, Kolarov
    Strootman, De Rossi
    Under,Nainggolan, Perotti
    Dzeko,
     
  14. Midfield General

    Jun 14, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Best line up we have at the moment.
     
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  15. JoãozinhoFutebol

    Feb 16, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Take out Radja for Gerson tbh
     
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  16. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    My cousins in Italy are saying Florenzi may be gone this summer....
     
  17. Roma_NY

    Roma_NY Member+

    Oct 19, 2009
    Washington, D.C.
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hot Take - Florenzi is a problem. He isn't good enough to start at RB despite years of trying to fit him there. His defense remains poor and even offensively he hasn't been very good, particularly his crossing. I don't think he is a starter at CM or RW either.

    So the problem is that he is demanding a big salary (4m euro/year?) and he isn't worth it. He is a utility player. But then you're stuck with the fact that he is Roman and he is a fan favorite. So what do you do? Do you keep him and pay the "Roman Premium"? Or do you let him walk and worry about supporter backlash?
     
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  18. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #218 falvo, Feb 22, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2018
    Yeah he wants double what he is making but I don't think Roma thinks he is worth it.


     
  19. Vulpinous

    Vulpinous Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 15, 2007
    Jersey Shore
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    No Roman premiums.
     
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  20. tmontana52

    tmontana52 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Philly- the 215
    Club:
    AS Roma
    I mean, I think it’s unfair to keep playing him out of position in the prime of his career. I don’t even know what his natural position is anymore, but I’m all about keeping him here and trying to help him. If he doesn’t think we can do that for him and wishes to leave, I completely understand.
     
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  21. Midfield General

    Jun 14, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed.

    Me too but not at 4 large.

    Yup.
     
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  22. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #222 falvo, Feb 22, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2018
    How funny how things change. I knew and saw this coming just a few months ago and was berated in the thread for even suggesting it.

    Nov 24, 2017

    Of course they will sell Florenzi for the right price. DeRossi capitano del futuro should also be gone by the summer as well.
     
  23. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I think De Rossi's contract expires in 2019.

    It was terrible decision to renew him given his advanced age and deterioration; it makes one wonder about Monchi's judgement.
     
  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yeah but I think he may leave earlier if he has a big contract offer from MLS or China.
     
  25. Marco9

    Marco9 Member

    Oct 29, 2006
    Canada
    Club:
    AS Roma
    De Rossi is the best midfielder we have right now, as shocking as that sounds
     
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