MLS releases Targeted Allocation Money rules

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  1. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
  2. Feldspar

    Feldspar Member+

    Nov 19, 1998
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States
    What're the odds the Revs routinely trade the allocation money away? Good, I suspect.
     
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  3. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, that's one way to get that defender we've been needing all year. I bet some of the forward thinking teams (those who are looking to sign new, high-end players) could use some extra scratch. Who has a defender they might be willing to part with so we don't have to give up Agudelo, Fagundez, Rowe or someone else who at least is contributing?
     
  4. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    So, what if you "tried real hard" to spend it or trade it, but couldn't?
     
  5. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Supposedly Orlando wants to buy down Bryan Rochez. Amobi Okugo, anyone?
     
  6. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Assuming there are no rule changes again next year (I know, BIG assumption), there are going to be some teams that are going to need to trade for the new alloc money very hard.

    LA for example has to use a pretty large portion on Gonzo this year if they want to sign Gio as has been rumored. They will be behind the 8 ball in coming years having to reacquire more alloc money.
     
  7. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    Mass
    We'll find out soon enough, you've just described our general motto for player acquisitions.
     
  8. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Think Twellman knew this was coming when he tweeted:

     
  9. brazrazra

    brazrazra Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Went to ESPN.com to read up on it. Had a small video with Twellman speaking he said "... and the important part is you have to use it. So teams like COL or (someone) or New England can't just sit on it..."

    I kind of laughed and was like, good man. Still cares about the team despite the owner and his non playing career just skyrocketing to the heights it has.
     
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  10. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, that's the good thing about this rule. It definitely encourages teams to sign guys who are stars, but not superstars, guys in the $600,000 or so range. The fact that if you use it to pay down a guy to below the max or DP threshold (if they gave Nguyen a new contract, for example) they'd have to sign another top player.

    Or, which I see as the more likely scenario, we will end up trading it to someone else, like LA or Toronto or Seattle, who actually will need it to add new players. The league as a whole will benefit with better talent coming in, and if we can pry loose a good player or two for "free" for an asset we are unlikely to use, I suppose it's a good thing.

    This is kind of like using your IRS refund check to pay off bills that you would have a hard time doing, instead of buying a new flat-screen TV. Not as much fun, but at least it will help you do something you couldn't have done otherwise.
     
  11. SamSam

    SamSam Member

    Feb 26, 2009
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Here is a link to the video http://www.espnfc.us/major-league-s...ellman-explains-mls-targeted-allocation-money
     
  12. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    yeah, it can be used two ways (and one of them is to get a star if you can work it).

    Seattle has Alonso sitting at ~$500k, basically wasting a DP slot.

    They can easily buy him under the DP rate with the new TAM and spend as much as they want on a 3rd DP, even at the Dempsey level if they want.
     
  13. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Problem is, none of those guys are contributing much right now. Agudelo v2 is a bust, Diego shows signs of life but apart from his world class hit, hasn't don3 much lately. Rowe hasn't contributed either. Any of those guys would be worth trading to get a marquee, MLS-top level, central defender.
     
  14. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have the Revs traded this yet?
     
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  15. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My point isn't that these guys are great, but that a player who can step right in to be a starter (or even a star) in this league can be found outside the league without having to give up any player assets. Imagine if we had a top-notch Nguyen or Jones level players as starters and then guys like Agudelo, Rowe or Fagundez would be hungry and would relish the opportunity to play in a USOC game to show Heaps they deserve more time. Or having guys like that available on the bench as tactical subs or to start when someone is injured or suspended, crazy stuff like that.

    If we sign a player at the top of the roster, someone at the bottom (like that guy "empty slot #2," he hasn't dome a thing all year!) should go, not someone in the upper-mid range.
     
  16. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    good lord more money for them to sit on or trade for a crappy player or a for future allocation that they will in turn trade. Or they trade it to move up in the pecking order for first shot at players coming back to the league to which they will pass on
     
  17. Revs in 2010

    Revs in 2010 Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Roanoke, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think this is a brilliant move by the league. The DP signings get a lot of press, but haven't always "moved the needle." This kind of mechanism allows you to pay a Shalrie (in his prime), or a Lee Nguyen contract renegotiation a fair price. These are the kinds of guys who often have the biggest impact on the quality of play. Of course we'll have to wait to see how it works out, especially vis-a-vis the Revs.
     
  18. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    It works in two ways. It allows you to pay a guy like Nguyen, Shalrie, Omar Gonzlez, etc. a good contract while still allowing you to spend big money on star DPs. This mechanism will help teams like Seattle, LA, Orlando, NYCFC, etc. more than it will help the Revs.
     

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