MLS Power Rankings: 2013

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Fiosfan, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably because it is based on the admittedly dubious assumption that all teams in the league, including CHV, have the same home-field advantage. I think that it is much more plausible in the aggregate than for a single game.
     
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  2. aperfectring

    aperfectring Member+

    Jul 13, 2011
    Hillsboro, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Since projections are basically pointless at this point in the season, here's my model's probabilities for each of the remaining games.
    HomeAwayHome Win %Draw %Away Win %
    RSL CHV 67.8 18.8 13.4
    PHI SKC 41.7 27.7 30.5
    TOR MON 43.3 26.0 30.7
    SJE FCD 48.4 25.3 26.3
    CHV POR 32.6 26.7 40.8
    DCU HOU 35.1 28.2 36.6
    CLB NER 45.6 25.7 28.8
    NYR CHI 57.2 22.4 20.4
    VAN COL 48.8 24.9 26.3
    SEA LAG 44.6 26.0 29.4

    Not much to say here. Pretty much all of them are right about where you'd expect them to be.
     
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  3. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I dunno man, those SEA-LAG percentages look pretty messed up. :ROFLMAO:
     
  4. aperfectring

    aperfectring Member+

    Jul 13, 2011
    Hillsboro, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    I don't take into account recent form, because most of the time doing so is useless.
     
  5. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Here's what mine look like after the LA-SJ game. Not very different at all, just including it for completeness' sake.

    2013.10.20.png
     
  6. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Oh, I totally get where you're coming from. Coming up with probabilities on that game is basically an exercise in futility. Recent form says LA wins easily, but I think everyone still kind of expects Seattle to wake from the dead before this is all said and done with.

    FWIW, my model is telling me the spread is 36%/33%/31% - not a whole heck of a lot different.
     
  7. aperfectring

    aperfectring Member+

    Jul 13, 2011
    Hillsboro, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    I'm not sure about waking from the dead, but I'll give them a bit of a benefit of the doubt since they'll have a large (probably) pro-Seattle crowd there.
     
  8. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the final 2013 MLS ELO+ team and strength-of-schedule ratings based on all teams starting the season at 100 (average).
    Code:
    Rank Team ELO+ Rank Team Sched
     1  NYR  118   1  CHV  104.4
     2  POR  117   2  DAL  102.5
     3  SKC  116   3  DCU  102.3
     4  RSL  116   4  SEA  101.7
     5  SJE  112   5  VAN  101.5
     6  LAG  109   6  COL  101.3
     7  COL  107   7  LAG  101.1
     8  HOU  106   8  SJE  100.8
     9  NER  105   9  RSL  100.5
    10  VAN  104  10  CLB  100.4
    11  SEA  102  11  POR  100.4
    12  CHI  102  12  MTL   99.6
    13  PHI   98  13  TOR   99.6
    14  MTL   96  14  PHI   98.4
    15  DAL   93  15  HOU   98.2
    16  CLB   89  16  CHI   98.0
    17  TOR   80  17  NER   97.3
    18  CHV   72  18  NYR   96.0
    19  DCU   58  19  SKC   96.0
    
    Every team played 34 games (K=5.88), and home teams had a winning percentage of 0.635 (H=27).

    Here are the final (iterated) 2013 MLS ELO+ team ratings and corresponding points predictions, obtained by setting the initial rating for each team equal to its final rating, rather than 100, and then summing each team's expected number of points across the entire season. The actual point totals are given for comparison.
    Code:
    Rank Team ELO+ Rank Team Proj Actual
     1  POR  128   1  NYR  59.3  59
     2  NYR  125   2  POR  58.6  57
     3  RSL  121   3  SKC  57.8  58
     4  SJE  120   4  RSL  55.2  56
     5  SKC  119   5  SEA  51.6  52
     6  COL  116   6  LAG  51.2  53
     7  LAG  114   7  HOU  50.8  51
     8  SEA  112   8  COL  50.6  51
     9  VAN  110   9  SJE  50.3  51
    10  NER  106  10  NER  50.1  51
    11  HOU  105  11  VAN  48.4  48
    12  CHI  105  12  CHI  47.9  49
    13  DAL   95  13  MTL  46.8  49
    14  PHI   90  14  PHI  46.0  46
    15  MTL   88  15  DAL  45.1  44
    16  CLB   85  16  CLB  39.0  41
    17  TOR   64  17  TOR  29.4  29
    18  CHV   62  18  CHV  25.6  26
    19  DCU   35  19  DCU  16.1  16
    
     
  9. aperfectring

    aperfectring Member+

    Jul 13, 2011
    Hillsboro, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Alright, here's the end of season expected performance:
    TeamEAPActualLuck
    POR61.357-4.3
    SKC58.958-0.9
    NYR58.259+0.8
    RSL57.656-1.6
    LAG57.053-4.0
    NER54.351-3.3
    VAN52.248-4.2
    COL51.451-0.4
    MON47.549+1.5
    SEA46.452+5.6
    HOU46.351+4.7
    PHI44.344-0.3
    FCD44.244-0.2
    CLB43.741-2.7
    CHI43.549+5.5
    SJE41.051+10.0
    TOR34.430-4.4
    CHV23.626+2.4
    DCU21.516-5.5

    Basically, the model is based upon GF:GA, so a team like San Jose which somehow got 51 points while having a negative goal differential is perceived as being a poor team.

    Portland's 5 goal torching of Chivas in the last weekend moved them from 58.3 up to 61.3, which is a fairly major change.

    The "Luck" column is (Actual - EAP), and is a representation of how many points were gained/lost over what the team would be expected to do against an average opponent. Interesting here is that this shows Chivas as overperforming with 26 points, while both DC and Toronto underperformed.
     
  10. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Surprise surprise, New York finish at the top of the ratings with SKC is close tow. The two surprises here are San Jose and Vancouver each finishing so high (7th and 8th) despite getting knocked out of the playoffs. Montreal has slid all the way down to 16th, and finish the lowest of all the playoff teams. Obviously, the End of Season Points Predicted are kind of meaningless here.

    2013.10.27.png

    I also used my game outcome predictions to predict playoff advancement by round, here are the results:

    2013.10.27.png
     
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  11. blacksun

    blacksun Member+

    Mar 30, 2006
    Seoul, Korea
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [quote="vividox, post: 28948440, member: 66900"The two surprises here are San Jose and Vancouver each finishing so high (7th and 8th) despite getting knocked out of the playoffs. [/quote]
    San Jose shouldn't be a huge surprise. While they finished 10th in the Supporter's Shield, they were tied on points and wins for 7th (losing on goal difference). Vancouver makes less sense.
     
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  12. aperfectring

    aperfectring Member+

    Jul 13, 2011
    Hillsboro, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Vancouver doesn't surprise me at all, because they actually did well at winning/staying in games. After all, they did finish with a positive goal differential, unlike San Jose.

    I'd say San Jose finished rather high because they did well in the second half of the season.
     
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