MLS-owned USL teams

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  1. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
    http://www.lagalaxy.com/post/2017/01/12/academy-director-mike-mu-oz-named-la-galaxy-ii-head-coach

    LOS ANGELES, Calif. (Thursday, Jan. 12, 2017) – LA Galaxy Academy Director Mike Muñoz has been named LA Galaxy II Head Coach, the club announced today. Muñoz, 33, takes over as Los Dos head coach in the United Soccer League (USL) after spending time as a coach and the Director of the LA Galaxy Academy, which he helped develop into one of the most successful in Major League Soccer, with 14 Academy products signed across LA Galaxy and LA Galaxy II.
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Updated 1/27/17.

    MLS-USL affiliation/owned history:

    Atlanta United: Charleston Battery (2016-17)
    Chicago Fire: Saint Louis FC (2015-16), Tulsa Roughnecks (2017)
    Colorado Rapids: Charlotte Independence (2015-17)
    Columbus Crew: Dayton Dutch Lions (2014), Austin Aztex (2015), Pittsburgh Riverhounds (2016-17)
    DC United: Richmond Kickers (2013-17)
    FC Dallas: Arizona United (2015), OKC Energy (2016-17)
    Houston Dynamo: Pittsburgh Riverhounds (2014), Charleston Battery (2015), Rio Grande Valley (2016-17)
    LA Galaxy: LA Galaxy II (2014-2017)
    Minnesota United: ??? (2017)
    Montreal Impact: FC Montreal (2015-16), Ottawa Fury (2017)
    New England Revolution: Rochester Rhinos (2013-17)
    NY City FC: Wilmington Hammerheads (2015-16), ??? ( 2017)
    NY Red Bulls: NY Red Bulls II (2015-17)
    Orlando City: Louisville City (2015), Orlando City B (2016-17)
    Philadelphia Union: Harrisburg City Islanders (2013-15), Bethlehem Steel (2016-17)
    Portland Timbers: Sacramento Republic (2014), Portland Timbers 2 (2015-17)
    Real Salt Lake: Real Monarchs SLC (2015-17)
    San Jose Earthquakes: Sacramento Republic (2014-16), Reno 1868 (2017)
    Seattle Sounders: Seattle Sounders 2 (2015-17)
    Sporting Kansas City: Orlando City (21013-14), OKC Energy (2014-15), Swope Park Rangers (2016-17)
    Toronto FC: Wilmington Hammerheads (2014), Toronto FC II (2015-17)
    Vancouver Whitecaps: Charleston Battery (2014), Vancouver Whitecaps 2 (2015-17)

    I used the years that the teams played rather than from the date of the affiliation/ownership announcements. Obviously most of these will be ongoing but we can update this as it goes.
     
  3. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
  4. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    A lot of the times mls teams work with clubs who are near by, but this is far from close. Bringing players back will be expensive or time consuming if not both.
     
  5. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    To be fair, there aren't many unspoken for teams close to New York, and there isn't a whole lot of back and forth.
     
    Owen Thornhill and Blando13 repped this.
  6. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    We'll see what happens. I don't think NYCFC loaned any players to Wilmington the last two seasons. Maybe this will be different.
     
  7. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I guess this just varies from team to team, affiliation-wise. I did not follow how much loaning was made by MLS to USL last season, other than my team.

    In Sacramento's case last season, we benefited from SJ's proximity by getting a number of players on a game-by-game basis. Overall, I didn't care for this set-up (too much roster flux), but we did benefit from Tommy Thompson providing some offense when we were struggling at that end.
     
  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  9. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  10. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  11. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
    http://www.lagalaxy.com/post/2017/02/22/la-galaxy-ii-announce-first-ever-open-tryouts-England

    LA Galaxy II announced today that the club will host two separate open tryouts for the first time in England during the summer of 2017 in an effort to expand their recruiting pool and discover players for the 2017 USL season and beyond. Tryouts will be held in London at The Hive on May 31 and June 1, and again in Manchester at University of Manchester Armitage Sports Centre on June 3 and 4.
     
  12. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    Why would some prospect choose to play in the US over England unless they are a DP or going via the college route to get an education? There are about 100 professional clubs in England + hundreds of semi pro clubs with more scouting than the US. Better than Semi Pro I guess but look at Jamie Vardy's rise through the league's.
     
  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Updated 2/24/17.

    I went ahead and added Orange County for LAFC. It doesn't look like Minnesota is going to affiliate this year.

    MLS-USL affiliation/owned history:

    Atlanta United: Charleston Battery (2016-17)
    Chicago Fire: Saint Louis FC (2015-16), Tulsa Roughnecks (2017)
    Colorado Rapids: Charlotte Independence (2015-17)
    Columbus Crew: Dayton Dutch Lions (2014), Austin Aztex (2015), Pittsburgh Riverhounds (2016-17)
    DC United: Richmond Kickers (2013-17)
    FC Dallas: Arizona United (2015), OKC Energy (2016-17)
    Houston Dynamo: Pittsburgh Riverhounds (2014), Charleston Battery (2015), Rio Grande Valley (2016-17)
    LA Galaxy: LA Galaxy II (2014-2017)
    Los Angeles FC: Orange County SC (2017)
    Minnesota United: ??? (2017)
    Montreal Impact: FC Montreal (2015-16), Ottawa Fury (2017)
    New England Revolution: Rochester Rhinos (2013-17)
    NY City FC: Wilmington Hammerheads (2015-16), ??? ( 2017)
    NY Red Bulls: NY Red Bulls II (2015-17)
    Orlando City: Louisville City (2015), Orlando City B (2016-17)
    Philadelphia Union: Harrisburg City Islanders (2013-15), Bethlehem Steel (2016-17)
    Portland Timbers: Sacramento Republic (2014), Portland Timbers 2 (2015-17)
    Real Salt Lake: Real Monarchs SLC (2015-17)
    San Jose Earthquakes: Sacramento Republic (2014-16), Reno 1868 (2017)
    Seattle Sounders: Seattle Sounders 2 (2015-17)
    Sporting Kansas City: Orlando City (21013-14), OKC Energy (2014-15), Swope Park Rangers (2016-17)
    Toronto FC: Wilmington Hammerheads (2014), Toronto FC II (2015-17)
    Vancouver Whitecaps: Charleston Battery (2014), Vancouver Whitecaps 2 (2015-17)

    I used the years that the teams played rather than from the date of the affiliation/ownership announcements. Obviously most of these will be ongoing but we can update this as it goes.
     
  14. ComeOnYouSpurs198

    Jan 1, 2011
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Do they have to have an affiliate on paper to fullfill that MLS suggestion/requirement?

    Colorado Springs, Cincinnati, Harrisburg, Louisville, Phoenix, Saint Louis, Sacramento, Tampa are all riding solo as of today, right?

    Cincy, Sactown, and Tampa might not want a partner in case that takes the shine off their MLS bids
    Louisville, Phoenix, and Saint Louis would want to be in that first group but haven't had as much hype IMO
    Harrisburg is probably unattractive for MLS suitors because it's an awful organization in most ways but still survives somehow
    I don't have any particular insight or analysis or banter on Colorado Springs
     
  15. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Country:
    United States
    Colorado Springs is in the Harrisburg pariah affiliate category, IIRC.

    Given the possibility of six teams who won't affiliate and two bad choices, they may have been given a year's exemption to get a reserve team going for 2018.
     
  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    I've never seen a clear deadline to affiliate. It sounds like Minnesota will be setting something up with their own USL team next year. MLS is probably not pushing them into anything this year as long as they have a plan.

    That list of unaffiliated looks correct. I would hesitate to speculate on teams' motives as far as affiliation. Harrisburg, St. Louis, Sacramento, and Louisville were affiliated in the past but things change.
     
  17. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Country:
    United States
    I don't think Louisville can affiliate. Too much ownership commonality with Orlando City (could make decisions that would harm the parent club to Orlando City's benefit).
     
  18. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    How could an affiliate harm their MLS partner? The MLS team sends a couple of guys on loan down to Louisville and what? Louisville doesn't play them? They coach them badly? Break their legs?
     
  19. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Country:
    United States
    Agreed, and Louisville seems like a potential fit due to the Louisville HC being a former player for Heath.

    St. Louis would be the "geographical" option I guess. MLS may allow for a year or two before expansion teams are "required" to affiliate, it's just never been an issue so we didn't know about it.
     
  20. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    I thought there was one but it was not strictly enforced.
     
  21. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Definitely a mandate to either affiliate or form a USL team but I mean specifically a timeline by which a team has to do it.
     
  22. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Country:
    United States
    I remember within 2 years. Now I'm not sure if that's 2 years from getting announced or starting playing or what. And I also can't find it, but I thought it was a 2 year grace period to find and affiliate or start a USL team.

    There hasn't been an issue of anyone not finding one in year 1 ... so I think it's been "forgotten".
     
  23. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Country:
    United States
    Overwork a player in practice, put him in the most dangerous situations in practice or a game. In other words, send him back exhausted and/or injured right before a cup match (which often the caliber of player that goes back and forth between MLS and USL) against Orlando.
     
  24. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Country:
    United States
    To quote the USSF requirements:

    e. Team Organization
    i. All of the required positions set forth in Section I(g) must be filled by full‐time staff year round.
    ii. Each U.S.‐based team must demonstrate a commitment to a player development program. This requirement may be satisfied by supporting either an amateur or professional reserve team competing in a USSF‐sanctioned league or by the league itself.
    iii. Each U.S.‐based team must maintain teams and a program to develop players at the youth level. This requirement may be satisfied by fielding teams in a Federation academy program.


    Since amateur teams can satisfy the USSF requirement, that would presumably mean a PDL affiliate. Can anybody point to a specific MLS rule that requires a professional team/affiliate?
     
  25. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States

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