MLS Flavors of the Week, 2018 Edition

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by TheFalseNine, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Offseason's moving along. Training camp starts in a couple of weeks. Let's talk about some MLS flavors.
     
  2. kba4life1

    kba4life1 Member+

    Jul 14, 2010
    Irvine, CA
    Lots of questions this year. Will K Acosta and Adams move abroad? Will Roldan and Mihalovic continue to take steps forward? Will young guys like Carleton, Goslin, Durkin, Sands, Pomykal, Ferriera, M Farfan etc actually receive tangible opportunities for playing time? Will the influx of foreigners with TAM and DTAM take opportunities away from US players in the league? Will Bitcoin and Ripple continue to rise? So many questions
     
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  3. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Same question I had last season. Will our younger players who are a more talented generation than the mid 20's/early 30's players get the playing time they need to develop further?
     
  4. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    If you drank too much of it, Ripple would definitely rise! (Don't think they make it any more.)
     
  5. joe cleats

    joe cleats Member

    Jun 17, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm excited for this season. I'm excited to see which young Americans can rise to the top of their clubs and earn their playing time. Not so long ago, young Americans were given chances because there was no one else, talent-wise, to stop them. Now, they have to earn their spot and continue to train and learn against solid talent from other nations. Also, MLS youth have the pressure from young yanks abroad who are establishing themselves in the Bundesliga, Liga MX, La Liga, and Primeira Liga (to name a few off the top of my head). If the goal is to make the USMNT, to get a chance abroad, to play in the World Cup, these 16-24 year olds are going to have to show a lot of fight in MLS. I'm excited to see if they have it.
     
  6. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member

    May 31, 2016
    for this season i hope-
    -Adams bosses MIDFIELD for rbny, and gets sold in the summer to a bundesliga club
    -carleton not attend any usynt camps, and try to be a viable bench option- especially is almiron gets sold
    -Mihalovic recover fast, and homegrown cam lindley get minutes
    -Steffen and Gonzalez battle for best MLS keeper
    -Dallas to actually play their young players
    -Roldan and/or Delgado emerge as a summer transfer target
    -durkin and sands to get minutes
     
  7. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Will there be more US-eligible teenagers that earn significant MLS playing time in 2018 than there were in 2017?

    In 2017, I can only think of 5 - Brooks Lennon, Danilo Acosta, Tyler Adams, Brandon Vazquez, and Djordje Mihailovic - of whom, only the last 3 will remain teenagers at the start of the 2018 season.
     
  8. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Vazquez played 36 more minutes than Pomykal. He didn't get much playing time last season.
     
  9. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    might as well get this show on the road. With the draft's increasing irrelevance, I think Hillard-Arce at the Galaxy is probably the only guy that has a chance to go in and start immediately thats a US citizen, thereby making him a flavor.
     
  10. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  11. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously? There is zero chance of any one "drafted" today that will be in the National Team picture for at least the next 2 years.
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    With so many domesticc NCAA players going the homegrown route.........................the draft has become significantly influenced by the foreign players.

    If players like Cam Lindley and Marcinkowski were available in the draft, they would have gone in the 1st round.
     
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  13. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can someone take a stab all of the draft eligible HG's and show how the draft would have fared had they been in it?
     
  14. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not surprising really. Especially with the acquisition of Barco. Could Carleton get more minutes elsewhere in MLS?

     
  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Carleton is 17. If he earns minutes with both teams as Tata suggests, then that would be meeting expectations.
     
  16. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Youtube: Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are as many American teens receiving significant minutes in the Bundesliga as MLS, and if Sargent were eligible it'd be more. There's no rationalization that's anywhere close to justified. MLS is a couple levels below the Bundesliga, are positioned to vacuum up disproportionate Americans, should have a built-in incentive to develop them, and Carleton is a blue-chip talent in the U.S. system. Going up and down between the reserves and 1st team where he comes off the bench for spot minutes is simply unacceptable. People who accept this practice are doing the sport in this country a disservice.
     
  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Carleton is 17. He's going to see first team playing time as per Tata above.
    How about we wait until the season actually gets underway before bitching about it?
     
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  18. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The question would then be are the ones there better than the ones in MLS. If you switched them would the minutes stay with the league or player?
     
  19. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Doyle ranks top 10 and puts RSL 6 and says

    "thought they were the West's best team after Justen Glad got healthy, but when your form is so reliant upon one player that's kind of a red flag. They've addressed that by adding meaningful depth all over the backline, and hit their biggest need by picking up Spanish No. 9 Alfredo Ortuño. Truth is, sixth might be too low for RSL."

    Wonder who will get more minutes against Bosnia, Opara because he has "earned" it per MLS soccer site or Glad who is one of our best hopes for the future.
     
  20. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Youtube: Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not the question, because as pointed out the Bundesliga is the much better league, while MLS houses exponentially more American prospects.
     
  21. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I don't even think the abroad prospects are better than the MLS prospects. I think there are different strengths and weaknesses in the abroad pool and the MLS pool.

    Domestic:

    GK: Vom Steeg, Marcinkowski, Garces
    DF: Cannon, Lindsey, Glad, Redding, Robinson, Trusty, Acosta, Farfan
    MF: Adams, Durkin, Sands, Goslin, Mihailovic, Carleton, Pomykal, Lennon, Lewis, Kunga
    FW: Ebobisse, Vazquez

    Abroad:

    GK: Klinsmann, Scott, Austin
    DF: Fossey, Olosunde, EPB, CCV, Dest, Esparza, A. Robinson
    MF: McKennie, Scott, Zelalem, Parks, Torres, Pulisic, Perez, Amon, Akale, Taitague
    FW: Wright, Sargent, Weah

    You also have to consider that some of the abroad players haven't lived in the USA or started in MLS and moved abroad.
     
  22. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't expect younger players to get serious minutes. As there is no incentive to have young American stars in MLS post Donovan.
     
  23. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    I don't know. I feel like they hyped the heck out of Morris when he came into the league, but maybe that was a unique situation...wanted by the Bundesliga and already getting USMNT caps while in college. I can't really think of any other young American players who've gotten that sort of push from the MLS marketing people recently.
     
  24. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    The incentive to play young Americans is that they are generally cheaper than imports; however, teams are not going lower their competitive standards more than budgets necessitate.

    Donovan won the U-17 World Cup's Golden Ball and World Cup's Young Player of the Tournament. Performance, rather than marketing needs, likely earned him early MLS minutes.
     
  25. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    that wouldn't happen in today's MLS. EPB was in the running for a Best of Tournament award for U20's and KC refused to play him. The one getting minutes and all the media hype is the guy who did the least on that team, Adams.

    The Donovan policy was a winner. He drove attention to the league when it needed it. Today's policy seems intended to dispirit people and drive them away from soccer stadiums.
     
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