MLS Expansion / Conference alignment 2022^

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  1. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I thought of away to align the teams until they added Sacramento and made 9 teams in the West. Have they announced a cut off number on amount of teams ? I think the Midwest needs more teams would like to see a team in Indy and or Louisville


    MLS :
    West: 9
    Vancouver
    Seattle
    Portland
    RSL
    Colorado
    SJ
    LAG
    LAFC
    Sacramento

    South : 7
    Dallas
    Houston
    Austin
    Orlando
    Miami
    Atlanta
    Nashville

    Midwest/ North : 7
    St Louis
    Minnesota
    Chicago
    Columbus
    Cincinnati
    Toronto ( could be in East )
    Sporting KC


    East : 7
    New England
    NYRB
    NYCFC
    Philly
    DC
    Montréal
    Charlotte


    Possible expansion :
    San Diego
    San Antonio
    Las Vegas
    Oklahoma City
    Charleston
    Louisville
    Indianapolis
    Detroit
    Phoneix
    Raleigh
    Tampa

    no idea who might be #31
     
  2. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Look at (a) market size and (b) the presence of an NFL team. They seem to be indicators for some of the recent expansion.
     
  3. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think all of our problems would be solved by Promotion/Relegation.
     
  4. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's like saying "Ted" three times....
     
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  5. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. Big J 0526

    Big J 0526 Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Sep 8, 2010
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the group think seems to be that there will not be a #31, that MLS would only ever expand to 30
     
  7. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Groupthink is wrong. The other leagues have (mostly) 32 teams or plans for 32, no way MLS stops short of that number.

    But I will say, it depends on the endgame.

    If MLS thinks 32 is the end, then I think they will want to give the remaining biggest markets (Detroit & Phoenix) a shot to claim the last two chairs. Plus, MLS may want to wait till closer to 2026, or possibly after, to take advantage of hosting the WC, to drive the last expansion fees as high as possible.

    If the endgame is 36, 38, or 40, then there is no need to slow down or target certain markets, there are still seats open at the table. It will just be a matter of when/if a bid is ready.

    Still, by the time 2022 rolls around, the league will have added a team six seasons in a row, growing from 20 to 30 in 6 years.

    The league had 10 teams, down from 12, as late as 2004. The growth from 10 to 20 took until 2015, 11 years.

    Overall, from 2005-2022 the league will have tripled in size, adding 20 teams.
     
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  8. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which way does NFL team cut? Last 6 have been an even split (Yes: Miami, Nashville, Charlotte; No: Austin, St. Louis, Sacramento).

    I think that committed, deep-pocketed owners williang to spend around $400 million on stadium/expansion fees/training facilities + strong corporate support + some kind of stadium plan are the 3 pillars. In that order.

    In terms of market size, biggest on the board (CSA or MSA if CSA not available):
    1. Detroit: 5.4 mil (sans Windsor 333k)
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    2. Phoenix: 4.9 mil
    3. SF/Oak: 4.7 mil (MSA part of CSA w SJ)
    4. Riverside 4.6 mil (MSA, CSA w LA)
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    5. Cleveland 3.6 mil
    6. SD (MSA) 3.3 mil (sans TJ 1.8 mil )
    7. Tampa Bay (MSA) 3.1 mil
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    8. Baltimore: 2.8 mil (MSA, CSA w DC)
    9. Pittsburgh 2.6 mil
    10. San Antonio: 2.6 mil
    11. Indy: 2.4 mil
    12. San Jaun: 2.3 mil (likely less now)
    13. Vegas: 2.3 mil
    14. Raleigh: 2.2 mil
    15. Milwaukee: 2.0 mil

    Everything else is under $2 million CSA.
     
  9. KHT_Crew

    KHT_Crew Member+

    Mar 29, 2003
    Queen City, OH
    Bring back the Central!
     
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